Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:07 pm

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EARTHQUAKES

Charles Chandler has what I think is the best explanation of the cause of Earthquakes at http://qdl.scs-inc.us/9981 . I'd like to see his material get published somewhere like at http://NCGT.org . I don't know what NCGT members' main view on plate motions is. Is it possible to doubt that plates exist and move against each other? Charles' model says the plate motions cause quakes electrically.
See GPS—Measuring Plate Motion https://www.iris.edu/hq/files/programs/education_and_outreach/aotm/14/1.GPS_Background.pdf

I asked Charles: Do you think plate motions are the only cause of earthquakes? What about earthquakes in the Himmalayas? Do plate motions reach there?

IRIS may be a good site to do searches on geology articles. Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/search#type=1

There's a video at the following link that considers deep quakes under the Aleutians to be evidence of subduction of continental crust to great depths. I asked Charles: What do you make of that data? I asked because I don't think he accepts subduction as real. I know I don't.
Alaska: Tectonics and Earthquakes https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/alaska_tectonics_and_earthquakes

The following links also include videos that may be of interest.
Continental Collision: India-Asia
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/continental_collision__indiaasia
Earthquake Early Warning: Pacific Northwest subduction zone
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/earthquake_early_warning_pacific_northwest_subduction_zone
Gulf of California: Earthquakes & Tectonics
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/gulf_of_california_earthquakes__tectonics
Pakistan: Earthquakes and Tectonics
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/pakistan_earthquakes_and_tectonics
Peru-Chile Subduction Zone: Earthquakes & Tectonics
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/peruchile_subduction_zone_earthquakes__tectonics
Seismic Eruption: Worldwide Earthquakes & Volcanoes 1960-2007
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animation/seismic_eruption_worldwide_earthquakes__volcanoes_19602007
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby seasmith » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:16 pm

Hi Lloyd, That four-digit number on the end of Charle's website address above seems to mess up the link.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:27 pm

Thanks, SeaSmith. I actually left out a few characters. It should be http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=9981
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:07 pm

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Earth's magnetic field may be headed for a cataclysm says latest French study
https://www.sott.net/article/402731-Earths-magnetic-field-may-be-headed-for-a-cataclysm-says-latest-French-study

Supernovae may have killed off large animals at dawn of Pleistocene
https://www.sott.net/article/402704-Supernovae-may-have-killed-off-large-animals-at-dawn-of-Pleistocene

We still don't know why the reign of the dinosaurs ended
https://www.sott.net/article/402909-We-still-dont-know-why-the-reign-of-the-dinosaurs-ended

Fireball that exploded over Greenland shook Earth, triggering seismic sensors
https://www.sott.net/article/402821-Fireball-that-exploded-over-Greenland-shook-Earth-triggering-seismic-sensors

Data from Kilauea suggests the eruption was unprecedented
https://www.sott.net/article/402858-Data-from-Kilauea-suggests-the-eruption-was-unprecedented

Stonehenge Scandal: Damage at Blick Mead | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1ee1oEdAs

Mesopotamian Origins of Ancient Egypt | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-ye1TVQiU&t=29s

Freak Firestorms & Fall of Phaeton / Hyakutake to Hendaye -Cosmography101-4.3 w/ Randall Carlson '06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TCIHM6C7-k

Holocene Impacts & Burckle Crater Initial Reporting –Cosmography101-5.1 w/ Randall Carlson (Nov ‘06)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUgCh4uPOH4

Chevrons, Cometary Parade & Cosmic Close Calls –Cosmography101-5.2 w/ Randall Carlson ‘06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55VTgm7ulF4

The 12,000 Year old Comet that Landed on TEDTalks…and Erased Ancient Civilization - Greenland Crater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMTTFLiOwX0
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:21 pm

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Saturn's rings are raining at faster rate than previously thought
https://www.sott.net/article/403162-Saturns-rings-are-raining-at-faster-rate-than-previously-thought

Water in Saturn's rings surprisingly like that on Earth, except for moon Phoebe
https://www.sott.net/article/403289-Water-in-Saturns-rings-surprisingly-like-that-on-Earth-except-for-moon-Phoebe

A big space crash likely made Uranus lopsided
https://www.sott.net/article/403403-A-big-space-crash-likely-made-Uranus-lopsided

Cave in China makes carbon dating more precise
https://www.sott.net/article/403066-Cave-in-China-makes-carbon-dating-more-precise

‘Treasure trove’ of dinosaur footprints found in southern England
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-treasure-trove-dinosaur-footprints-southern.html

A Scientist Claims The World’s Oldest Pyramid Is Hidden in an Indonesian Mountain
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-s-oldest-pyramid-is-hidden-in-an-indonesian-mountain-scientists-claim

A year later, not a word on Alaska paper in Nature with evidence for repeated cataclysm
https://cosmictusk.com/alaska-muck-hibben-frozen-mammoth-comet-catastrophe/

Greenland icebergs may have triggered Younger Dryas
https://cosmictusk.com/younger_dryas_ice_bergs_greenland_hiawatha_comet/

Saginaw Impact Structure
- http://www.cintos.org/SaginawManifold/Timing/index.html
- https://cosmictusk.com/wp-content/uploads/Klokocnik-2018-Saginaw-Bay-crater-sm-002.pdf

Mystery History video links
- https://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=23835.msg300971#msg300971
- http://cnps.boards.net/thread/51/mystery-history

The Hidden History Of The Human Race [which Youtube seeks to suppress] -- Mystery History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3h1yL3iRmU

Exposing Mans Hidden Past ~ A Mystery History Special
- https://youtu.be/Yc4PGemz8I0
- (Transcript) https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTw76T1m7vNdu-Sy3P1WzJboLeJ7St7JL71xJbnrOxwA2YE-i6DqTXTRUx_yxRa30pvz4CZlOCuCxCX/pub

The Persepolis Plateau Iran's Antediluvian Jewel's (Part 1) -- Mystery History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZxQ6hw-S20

Iran's Most Astonishing Antediluvian Ruins (Part 2) -- Mystery History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DgpH5LQwE

'One of a Kind' Untouched Tomb Discovered in Egypt | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9UGStJHZZM&t=38s

Alchemist Clues on Cyclic Cross of Hendaye -Cosmography101-5.3 w/ Randall Carlson 11/06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mMyNtTHC3w

Wal Thornhill: Blockbuster – Saturn/Earth Connection Confirmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPpR8t1qvk
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:21 pm

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NASA's 'New Horizons' probe detects weird anomaly days ahead of Ultima Thule flyby
https://www.sott.net/article/403470-NASAs-New-Horizons-probe-detects-weird-anomaly-days-ahead-of-Ultima-Thule-flyby

Earth enters densest stream of deadly Taurid meteor cluster this June (also discusses Bennu)
https://www.sott.net/article/403663-Earth-enters-densest-stream-of-deadly-Taurid-meteor-cluster-this-June

Earth loses hundreds of tons of atmosphere during auroras
https://www.sott.net/article/403429-Earth-loses-hundreds-of-tons-of-atmosphere-during-auroras

Ice cores could solve cosmic ray mystery
https://www.sott.net/article/403721-Ice-cores-could-solve-cosmic-ray-mystery

Unpredicted Discovery: Why Is Iron So Highly Oxidized Deep Inside The Earth? Geoscientists Are Surprised [They assume it'f from 550km deep, but it's probably from only 1km or so, since tech can't go very deep yet]
http://www.messagetoeagle.com/unpredicted-discovery-iron-highly-oxidized-deep-inside-earth-geoscientists-surprised/

Oumuamua's Strange Acceleration and Other Anomalies - Thunderbolts.info
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr0LX8VVCHI
- https://youtu.be/YJgpFDU4dwE

Paleoburrows dug by ancient ground sloths [Did the soil harden into rock? If so, how?]
- http://revistapesquisa.fapesp.br/en/2017/07/28/shelter-for-giants/
- http://www.messagetoeagle.com/prehistoric-engineers-huge-ancient-tunnels-south-america-identified/

10 Ancient Surfaces With Rare Images And Carvings [includes Younger Dryas Impact info]
http://demo-top10-mix.aobrien.org/2018/12/22/10-ancient-surfaces-with-rare-images-and-carvings/

This is What Ancient Civilizations said about Giants Existing on Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8vZ7yEE1w

Secrets of the Nebra Sky Disc | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWiI8xIC9SA&t=19s

Gunung Padang: Ancient Lost Pyramid or Modern Hoax? [uncertain] | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g-a_uDC9To

End Days Clues from Cyclic Cross Monument -Cosmography101-5.3 w/ Randall Carlson 11/06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mMyNtTHC3w

Double Catastrophe Imminent? Decoding Occult Symbols -Cosmography101-6.2 w/Randall Carlson '06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv8PPTh6ISo&t=14s

Recent Catastrophes; Rise/Fall of Civilizations / Learn by Repetition –Cosmography101-6.1 w/ RC '06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duBVeM9-b54&t=25s

RANDALL CARLSON SCHOOLS US ON NUMBERS IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgFeb_aS4hE

Potential Younger Dryas impact sites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwsw0Stu69Q

No One Knows Who Built These Ancient Structures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE46fGzZTog
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:32 pm

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Catastrophic galactic collision could send Solar System flying into space
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-catastrophic-galactic-collision-solar-space.html

Why is Earth missing a huge part of its crust? [Ans? Continental crust came from transgressions (tsunamis); missing crust was removed by regressions (retreats)]
https://www.sott.net/article/403962-Why-is-Earth-missing-a-huge-part-of-its-crust

Sahara swung between lush and desert conditions every 20,000 years [False uniformitarian assumption? dust was cataclysmic, not gradual]
https://www.sott.net/article/404174-Sahara-swung-between-lush-and-desert-conditions-every-20000-years-in-sync-with-monsoon-activity

‘Ripped’ Woman with Massive Forearms Is the Oldest Known Human Burial in Lower Central America
https://www.livescience.com/64403-oldest-human-burial-in-lower-central-america.html

Ancient Relics That Are SO Advanced They Shouldn't Exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AArWNHPGRTk

The Emerald Tablets and the Great Pyramid of Egypt | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2bWa-rckvk&t=26s

Ancient Origins of the Sphinx Temple of Egypt | Ancient Architects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1AVORQR9Rs

Who Were The Neoliths? 3rd Lost Civilisation Discovered? Mystery History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxF--zrOyoY

Epoch-ellipse Preferred Survival Plan / Symbolic Clues -Cosmography101-6.3 w/ Randall Carlson 11/06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2s_2Tl3HBE

5 Scientific FACTS that prove the Great flood actually happened! (younger dryas impact crater)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3n5l7orfM

Younger Dryas Impact Black Mat Layer - Eastern US Covered In Ice B4 Greenland Ash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDwbHIudBmU

Hudson Bay Younger Dryas Impact Crater - Greenland Hiawatha Glacier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7A3kxgiTFc
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:09 pm

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EVIDENCE OF NOVA CATACLYSM

Mike someone on this forum sent me a link to a video. I just happened to see part of the same video the day before. It's called "Causes of the Ice Ages" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_yq19Af-s . See e.g. at 18 min. re solar nova fission tracks in Moon dust. However, I believe it's better evidence that Saturn went nova a few thousand years ago and caused that dust, as claimed by the Saturn Theory. The video channel has a number of videos, but this one may be of most interest. A coming video, part 4, may be good too.

The author claims that the Sun goes nova every 12,000 to 16,000 years, I think. And he says the next nova is due in less than 30 years. But I think he misinterprets the evidence. He judges by magnetic reversals, for one thing, but those more likely occurred over very short time spans, i.e. hours. Distinti showed that the magnetism in the previously magnetized strip of seafloor magma had a stronger influence than the polar magnetism on the magnetism of the next strip of magma, causing the next strip to have a reverse polarity. The magma strips formed as the continents moved apart due to the great impact off east Africa, as explained at http://NewGeology.us .

The above video seems to suggest that the fission tracks in lunar dust prove that the material that formed them came from the Sun, but I didn't see any explanation that they had to come from the Sun and could not have come from Saturn. Brown dwarf stars are known to go nova, but I don't think sun-like stars are known to do so.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:39 pm

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More on Novas

I just have a little to add to the previous message: Causes of the Ice Ages [See at 18 min.: solar nova fission tracks]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_yq19Af-s

Vogt thinks the Sun goes nova every few thousand years. Here's some slight evidence in support of that possibility.

Solar Flares: Origin and Threat to Our Civilization
_Considering new records of superflares of Sun-like stars and terrestrial records of possible
“paleo-solar-flares”, we must conclude that our Sun seems capable of producing giant solar
flares 10 to 100 times as strong as the Carrington event. In view of this solar flares emerge as
the possibly greatest threat to modern life on planet Earth.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312577410_Solar_Flares_Origin_and_Threat_to_Our_Civilization

Some Nova-like Characteristics of Solar Flares
http://adsbit.harvard.edu//full/1951PASP...63..233R/0000233.000.html

Here are some counterclaims from EU.

Not So Super Nova
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2018/04/09/not-so-super-nova/

Survivor of Super Nova
http://www.thunderbolts.info/~thundes2/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17062

(Nova) Burning Bright
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2018/08/08/burning-bright-2/

Site search for Saturn Flare. EU proponents found that Saturn likely flared like a nova and caused the beginning of global cataclysms.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Athunderbolts.info%2F+saturn+flare&ie=&oe=

Here's an alternative take on EU theory for novas.

Supernovae
http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=16754
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:41 am

Catastrophic Flares

Before I post the weekly news update, here's more material related to the previous two posts. The following linked article discusses recent videos by Ben Davidson, who has spoken at an EU Conference. This article mentions evidence of periodic devastating solar flares, similar to the claim by Vogt in the previous posts. That's in the first part of the article. The latter part goes on to predict a similar catastrophic flare in the near future based on nonsense testimony from supposed people from the future. I still believe the flares in ancient times were from Saturn, not the Sun, as ancient myths strongly suggest that Earth was a moon of Saturn. The links to Davidson's videos are likely to have useful data. The rest seems to be intentional scare tactics/propaganda, similar to the scare tactics of "global warming" and others.

Impending Solar Flash Event Supported by Scientific Studies & Insider Testimony
https://www.exopolitics.org/impending-solar-flash-event-supported-by-scientific-studies-insider-testimony/

Here are Ben Davidson's recent videos:

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | SOLAR MICRONOVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTUJ7GtEx0Y&t=467s

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | SOLAR MICRONOVA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTUJ7GtEx0Y

Recurring Nova Z-Pinch, Cyclone | S0 News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuDtvi6I6Bk

Strangest Meteor, Polar Vortex, Ancient Solar Blast | S0 News Jan.5.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpyoHt2MZic

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Star-Metal Impactors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpvQcRXToIA

Tight CME, Major Blizzard, Proof of Nova Glass | S0 News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hglel8buyjs

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Good Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXU0cBhSUFc

Most-Repeating Nova Discovered, Cold Records | S0 News Jan.10.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWxe3JVxcZQ

Magnetic Pole Reversal Acceleration, Top News | S0 News Jan.11.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4nbEqZ2T84
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread postby Lloyd » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:17 am

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New study reveals dinosaur killing Chicxulub asteroid caused a global mile high tsunami
https://www.sott.net/article/404438-New-study-reveals-dinosaur-killing-Chicxulub-asteroid-caused-a-global-mile-high-tsunami

Earth's water & chlorine from a Saturnian flare
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17218

10 Amazing Crop Circles That Have Left Authorities Stunned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPY19drp7M

Ben Davidson's Channel re Cyclic Micronovas etc [Some titles shown in previous post]
https://www.youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers/videos

Sigiriya (Ravana's Palace) - Incredible Ancient Technology Found in Sri Lanka?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhDy7ygZg50

Catastrophe holds key to Historical Mysteries / Survival strategy? -CosmoG101-28.3 R Carlson 9/08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6qkjIT2qEI

How the Younger Dryas Climate Event Influenced Prehistoric Humans | Human Origin Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50doKDnTOsM

CIA AstroTurfing Younger Dryas Impact - Diehold Foundation is COINTELPRO [See post on Vogt recently above]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg8H1VDCUc8

Wal Thornhill: The Saturn/Earth Connection and Our Place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fjcPguafug
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