Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by flyingcloud » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:24 pm

Lloyd wrote:* Flyingcloud, do you have any idea what your dream means?
* My amateur guess is that it means one day is coming to a close and a new day will soon begin. And then the new day is here and it's kind of the opposite. Instead of modern, dark and infinite space, it's old-fashioned, light and infinitely enclosed.
* Maybe you should ask for the meaning of the dream next time. When asking, I think Dr. McKenzie said to avoid asking for a choice between 2 or so different interpretations. I guess just ask instead for a better understanding.
* I don't know if it will require much patience to accomplish much via dreams, but Dr. McKenzie apparently accomplished major breakthroughs via dreams in understanding the cause of major depression and schizophrenia etc.
* I hope I'll persist at this, but I decided to just dream about one problem at a time, instead of two or more.
Usually when I dream about things the answers are obvious, not so much in this case, maybe because I wasn't completely focused on a particular answer.

It was apparent that the numbers we important. And until I posted I could not get beyond those scenes. It was weird because there was no motion, it wasn't like a movie it was like two snapshots. If I ever sleep again I'll try a different approach.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by flyingcloud » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:11 am

occultations?

to sleep: perchance to dream, see you tomorrow night
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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by mague » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:18 am

Lloyd wrote:* Mague, I don't find a river mentioned in my dream.
Curse my english :D You mentioned "a small clear stream".

I know the words for pond, puddle, lake and ocean but i have to admit i have not many words for smaller or bigger rivers :)
Lloyd wrote: * You say:
You cant get anything out of the subcon. that wasnt there earlier. You could only find answers you knewed allready but then forgot them.
* My understanding is that we aren't conscious of most of what we perceive. Most of our perceptions go directly into our subconsciouses without our ever being aware of them. Our subconscious does most of our perceiving and that's why we get intuitions about things sometimes. We know something in our subconscious, but our conscious minds don't know what that something is, unless we get help to discover it.
* You know that you can focus on something and become oblivious to everything else to a great extent. But the subconscious never becomes oblivious to anything. When you skim through a book, you may consciously notice a few phrases, but your subconscious devours each whole page, if it's clear enough. Hypnosis seems to prove these things.
Thats why i wanted to move it away from psychologic terms.
It is easy to confuse subconscious and autonomic nervous system for example. Within my framework there are many areas. For example the autonomic nervous system does hold informations like magnetic fields and many other subtle energies our body is recognizing outside of our awareness. It works vice versa as well. Humans do push "stuff" into the autonomic nervous system. The negative effects are called somatic illness.

But this all is still operating within an "invisible" boundary. Aware or not aware, hypnosis, mental conditioning, somatic influence. This is all Tonal, its all inside what we think is us. It doesnt matter if you burried information deep down in your mind cellar, it is still our mind cellar. The real Nagual; Unknown, subconscious is beyond that boundary.

I am aware that it is not necessary easy to move your focus outside your self. However, we have a proverb here. "Its possible to jump over you own shadow".

I once lost a set of batteries for a device. One night i dreamed about where they are and they have been there. This is how you describe it. ofc. i knew where they where, just forgot about it.

Once i got lost in the mountains and fog came up. I couldnt see a thing. I knewed there was a cliff near me. Suddenly a bird flew by and told me : follow ill guide you. And i followed and found my path and didnt die at the cliff. And i was awake ;) This is a different dream. Just as different as when the sun is talking and laughing.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by flyingcloud » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:03 pm

Ok, well, turn your filters on because this is off the wall stuff.

I had this "revelation" Tuesday and have been trying to refute it or grasp it in my own mind, and well I'm not worthy. Straight forward as it seems there may be symbolism and all, and it may be all wrong, I don't know, this is what I received so take it as it is. Sorry if this is common knowledge or total dirt. Ramblings of a mad man.

Gravitational lensing is actually electromagnetic refraction.

"I" am supposed to build a grid, the electromagnetic spectrum across the top and properties down the side.
All electromagnetic frequencies should have the same properties that manifest themselves differently. All electromagnetic frequencies eminate photons with electron shell leaps, all frequencies are affected by magnetic influences on various scales, even if not apparent. many on the subatomic scale. Most frequencies are "bundled" and then refracted.

Refraction of light is electromagnetic alteration on a sub atomic scale not necessarily changes in the speed of said light.

Gravitational lensing is the light or (other electromagnetic wavelengths) bent by the sub atomic interaction experienced while passing through the plasma fields, electromagnetic galaxy shells, heliospheres / pauses of stars on it's way to us.

refraction of light, laser through prism/glass bends through various mediums is the interaction of subatomic particles as the wave weaves through the molecules, glassy solids and state variations, same situation different mediums

refraction and reflection as well as friction are all electromagnetic phenomena
take tv and radio
transmissions bounce off the ionosphere, reflection, refraction
light works the same way, the wavelengths determine at what scale

something related to the difference of boiling water and electrolisys then I woke up, I couldn't write fast enough, didn't get the final thought on that one

so I am tasked to make this spreadsheet or whatever linking the properties of all electromagnetic frequencies

sorry if this is all wrong

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by soulsurvivor » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:02 pm

I didn't make a direct request for this dream. It just was. 3-12-09. There's been a murder of inona near Somerset. My plans to travel have to be rethought because of my need to stay away from this place.

I didn't know what "inona" was until I looked it up online awhile ago.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:15 pm

* FlyingCloud, Thornhill considers the bending of light around stars to be refraction of light through the neutrino sea aether, as the aether is a bit denser around planetoids. However, gravitational lensing is considered a false theory designed to explain similar quasars on opposites sides of a galaxy as mirror images of a quasar far behind the galaxy, whereas, in reality each quasar image is a real quasar on opposite sides of the galaxy, not far behind the galaxy. Quasars are formed within such galaxies and remain near them. The redshift formula for quasars is all wrong.
* If you find meaning in the rest of your material, please provide whatever interpretation you consider possible.
* Soulsurvivor, which Inona do you think is meant?

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by soulsurvivor » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:49 am

The murder of "pleasant,sweet". I think. It's most likely a self reflective thought and probably not appropriate for discussion topic here, but I'll keep asking for an answer to your question.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by soulsurvivor » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:27 am

Nevermind. I answered my question.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29695495

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by soulsurvivor » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:39 am

whoa... what is the general condition of the ionosphere above Somerset England? Is there a ground based satellite communication something based there?

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by soulsurvivor » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:16 am

The best approach for the electrical theory advancement will be to find a wealthy sponsor that can fund a multi-year research grant at the university level. In this reality, even that isn't a promise.

Back to the "murder" of the ionosphere:

http://www.bigf.ac.uk/projects_enabled.htm

I can't pinpoint one project and say specifically that what they're doing is "murdering" the ionosphere, but inside self has taken me as far as I'm going on this. The rest is difficult research if I want the answer. I'm not certain I do.

Many of the ionospheric studies are centered in England, due to one man, Appleton, who received the 1947 Nobel Prize for his research of the ionosphere:

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/phys ... ecture.pdf

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by lizzie » Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:58 am

Speaking of really odd synchronicities
Flying Cloud said: Gravitational lensing is actually electromagnetic refraction.
Solar Eclipse Anomalies and Wave Refraction
http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0610/0610197.pdf
The General Theory of Relativity (GTR) describes gravitation as the response of an object to local spacetime curvature. Gravitational waves travelling at the speed of light are then a necessary mechanism to maintain the required consistency between local curvature and distant gravitating mass.

Gravitational waves will certainly be subject to refraction by bodies such as the moon and we explore if such an effect can result in an error in the apparent position of the sources and thereby give rise to the characteristic pattern of response associated with the eclipse anomaly. It is found there are phenomenological similarities, but only if gravitational waves are considered not merely to respond to spacetime curvature but are also significantly affected by the presence of mass, perhaps in a manner analogous to electromagnetic waves propagating through matter.
I believe “gravitational waves” (longitudinal waves) are really acoustic waves that travel faster than the speed of light; I wonder if this what is called “dark energy”; it's the (imploding) “female energy” of the universe. It’s dark because we don’t see it; it travels faster than light. EM is the (radiating) "male energy"; I think this "dark energy" is “Superlight”. EM (electro-magnetic) waves are the “outbreath” ME (magneto-electric) waves are the inbreath.

Superlight
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/milewski.htm
Soul Survivor said: I didn't know what "inona" was until I looked it up online awhile

The murder of "pleasant,sweet". I think. It's most likely a self reflective thought and probably not appropriate for discussion topic here, but I'll keep asking for an answer to your question

whoa... what is the general condition of the ionosphere above Somerset England? Is there a ground based satellite communication something based there?

I can't pinpoint one project and say specifically that what they're doing is "murdering" the ionosphere, but inside self has taken me as far as I'm going on this. The rest is difficult research if I want the answer. I'm not certain I do.

I can't pinpoint one project and say specifically that what they're doing is "murdering" the ionosphere, but inside self has taken me as far as I'm going on this. The rest is difficult research if I want the answer. I'm not certain I do.

Many of the ionospheric studies are centered in England, due to one man, Appleton, who received the 1947 Nobel Prize for his research of the ionosphere.
In the meantime I posted this on another thread:

http://www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm

Special Relationship (LOL - how "special" is special?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationsh ... ed_Kingdom
The United Kingdom is the only collaborative, or Level One, international partner in the largest U.S. aircraft procurement project in history, the F-35 Lightning II program. The United Kingdom was involved in writing the specification and selection and its largest defense contractor BAE Systems is a partner of the American prime contractor Lockheed Martin. BAE Systems is also the largest foreign supplier to the United States Defense Department and has been permitted to buy important U.S. defense companies such as Lockheed Martin Aerospace Electronic Systems and United Defense.

Other joint projects include the RAF Harrier GR9 or United States Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier II and the U.S. Navy T-45 Goshawk. Both nations also operate several common designs, including the Javelin anti-tank missile, M270 rocket artillery, the Apache gunship, C-130 Hercules and C-17 Globemaster transport aircraft.

A cornerstone of the special relationship is the collecting and sharing of intelligence. This originated during World War II with the sharing of code breaking knowledge and led to the 1943 BRUSA Agreement, signed at Bletchley Park. After WWII the common goal of monitoring and countering the threat of communism prompted the UK-USA Security Agreement of 1948. This agreement brought together the SIGINT organizations of the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand and is still in place today.

One present-day example of such cooperation is the UKUSA Community, comprising the USA's National Security Agency, the United Kingdom's Government Communications Headquarters, Australia's Defence Signals Directorate and Canada's Communications Security Establishment collaborating on ECHELON, a global intelligence gathering system. Under classified bilateral accords, UKUSA members do not spy on each other.

Following the discovery of the 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot, the CIA began to assist the Security Service (MI5) by running its own agent networks in the British Pakistani community. Security sources estimate 40 per cent of CIA activity to prevent a terrorist attack in the United States involves operations inside the United Kingdom. One intelligence official commented on the threat against the United States from British Islamists: 'The fear is that something like this would not just kill people but cause a historic rift between the US and the UK
The name " Terlin", "Turlun", "Turlin", or "Turin"

Terlin Outbacker
Antenna & Communications
http://www.outbacker.com.au/

Battle of Turin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Turin
The Battle of Turin took place on 7 September 1706 west of the city of Turin during the War of the Spanish Succession. In a decisive victory for the Allied forces under Prince Eugene of Savoy and Duke Victor Amadeus II of Savoy (proclaimed King by the Treaty of Utrecht after the end of the war), the French siege of Turin was broken and the withdrawal of French forces from northern Italy began. The French troops were under command of Philippe II, Duke of Orléans, Louis d'Aubusson de la Feuillade and Ferdinand de Marsin, who was taken prisoner and died in captivity.
Battle of Turlin
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Turlin
The Battle of Turlin was the turning point in the War of the Areltsi Coalition where Nulvarl forces defeated Coalition forces and drove them off Turlin. In the battle, both Jorell and Trivas personally led troops on the ground and nearly wiped out the defending forces. The small group of Coalition freighters and corvettes protecting the planet were driven off with heavy casualties.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by Lloyd » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:49 pm

* This morning I dreamed I or someone was telling Stephen Colbert about the theory that everything consists of consciousness. I think it was on his tv show and he was making a big joke out of it, making it seem ridiculous, I think.
* I just looked up his name on the net to check the spelling and I came across his bio here http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0170306/bio, which says in part,
At the time he left "The Daily Show" (1996), Stephen had been its longest-running and most diverse correspondent. In addition to his role as Senior Political Correspondent, he was one of the hosts of "Even Stepheven," a point-counterpoint assault featuring co-correspondent Steve Carell, and the host of "This Week in God," a recurring segment in which he reported on all things theological with the assistance of the "God Machine."
* So it looks like he'd be the person to tell the theory to.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by flyingcloud » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:05 am

sorry I don't have time right now, just need the link, another piece to the puzzle...

"infinitely tall walls"

http://books.google.com/books?id=AjhCLt ... lt#PPP1,M1

with refraction?

'tower of babel'
http://math.slu.edu/escher/index.php/De ... erspective

the winger function
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner_qua ... stribution

radio reflection
http://garfield.library.upenn.edu/class ... 600001.pdf

don't know if any are pertinent, I need to read, I can't learn this fast, just needed a common starting point

Cavendish Labs Cambridge, thanks Soul Survivor

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by lizzie » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:26 am

Milo Wolff's "the Electron" (the moving spherical standing wave)
http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm

Did such architecture (geometric structures) such as the Tower of Babel promote the formation of huge standing waves that allowed the ancients to "draw down" cosmic energy from above - the "marriage of heaven and earth"? The tower formed a resonating cavity and also served as a kind of Tesla interferometer - they utilized both EM and acoustic waves - the ancients' "light and sound" show.

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Re: Program Dreams to Solve EU Problems etc

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:23 pm

* I think the TB team consider the Tower of Babel to have been the polar plasma column at the north pole during the Saturn Age. Similarly Atlantis was in the sky, with Saturn being at the center. Atlantis was equivalent to Paradise, or the Garden of Eden, etc.

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