The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar cycle

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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby Vincent Wee-Foo » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:22 am

kevin wrote:Vincent Wee Foo,

Until We better can operate with the sun and go and visit it, visual is our first glimpses of the consequences of that which is creating the sun.
IMHO,
The polarity and equator system is universal to all in creation, and is not a consequence of the created ( mass /matter)
It is the duality of opposite spin heart centred flows of plasma ( consciousness)
As these flows are interferred with in multiple directions, the sun spots reveal the consequences locally about the suns sphere.
The flows of plasma are of universe and cause creation as it compresses into 3D mass, thus the sun will eventualy become a planet, and a new pinch point ( sun) will begin.

The ANU as described by Leadbeater is close imho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da1caAYlWVI

Kevin

Absolute need a state of the art space probe to see how the outer and inner Sun oscillate with respect to the planetary oscillation, and how these effect drives the solar minima and maxima, as well as how the magnetic field of the Sun reverses.

I agree with your hypothesis on "The flows of plasma are of universe and cause creation as it compresses into 3D mass, thus the sun will eventualy become a planet, and a new pinch point ( sun) will begin.". Am also seeing this in "The UVS inductive resolution on the formation of stars and galaxies" from the vortical universe perspective.

BTW, I had given you due credit in my web page on "The UVS inductive resolution on sunspot" for your post that provided the link to ""Form and Phyllotaxis". Thank you for the link to this awesome web page.

Thanks for sharing the ANU video, and keep up your good work on spreading the ideas of "Everything in nature spirals.", I fully support this scientific revolution.

Cheers!
Vincent
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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby kevin » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:05 am

Vincent Wee Foo,

We are all following pathways out of the darkness of assumed reality.
You shine brightly.
Thank You.
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One of My heroes in this vortx universe.
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At all scale.

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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby jacmac » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:27 am

The planets make the sun wobble.
It moves around the barycenter.
The barycenter is a point in space determined mathematically to locate
the total gravitational effect the planets have on the sun.
The barycenter itself is not a real thing.

Does the wobble of the sun cause the solar cycle ?
Is it "tidal" forces inside the sun ?
Is the wobble relative to the center of a large Birkeland current feeding the sun the driving force ?
Are there also non gravitational(electric ?) connections between the sun and the planets ?
Are these connections in addition to the solar wind connections ?
Why do sunspots rotate with the sun for days or weeks seemingly unrelated to planetary positions ?
How and why does the solar magnetic field flip every half solar cycle ?
What role does the changing environment outside the heliosphere play in all this ?

The barycenter is the center location of total mass of the sun and planets.
When the sun and a MAJOR SUB barycenter align with the barycenter
one can say they are aligning with themselves.
Do these alignments happen often when there is not a MAX or MIN of the solar cycle ?
Is there a statistical significance to when the alignments do happen ?

What's next ?
Keep up the good work Vincent.
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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby Cargo » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:33 pm

jacmac wrote:The barycenter is a point in space determined mathematically


Really? I thought we were talking about an observed and measured barycenter?
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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby Vincent Wee-Foo » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:46 am

The 11 year solar cycle is merely a putative period. It was averaged from the 24 solar cycles with periods that range for 9 year to 13.6 year.

Seemingly, a quarter cycle of the Jupiter-Sun-Saturn integral cycle was overrun from manifesting its solar maximum in 5 cases of solar minimum. (05 Min, 07 Min, 12 Min, 14 Min, 23 Min.) All these 5 solar minimum cases apparently have had their Sun-SSB-BJS alignment peculiarly negated from manifesting their alternating solar maxima. Apparently they were peculiarly negated by the conjunctions of BUN, Sun, and BJS that had perturbed the effectiveness of the Sun-SSB-BJS alignments. (Note: BUN - Barycenter of Uranus and Neptune, BJS - Barycenter of Jupiter and Neptune.)

Click to see the Animated charts.

This animation highlights the transit of Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn conjunctions in four quarters for the solar cycles from 12 Max to 16 Max, which the solar minima and solar maxima in this selective period were mostly driven by the alignment of Sun-SSB-BJS.

As shown in the above animation, in the period from 1883 December to 1928 April while there were 10 alignments of Sun-SSB-BJS, one alignment was apparently skipped from manifestation when there was a BUN-Sun-BJS superior conjunction that had occurred before the 1902 Jan solar minimum of solar cycle 14.

In the ~179 year synodic cycle of BUN, Sun, and BJS, the alignment of Sun-SSB-BJS was apparently negated four times by BUN. It was negated two times before and after the superior conjunctions of BUN-Sun-BJS, and also negated two times before and after the inferior conjunctions of BUN-BJS-Sun. One ~20 year full cycle of the Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn conjunction makes 4 alignments of Sun-SSB-BJS, so in 9 full cycles of this conjunction occurring in the ~179 year synodic cycle with the 4 skipped alignments, the negations render the ~22 year full solar cycle {179/(9 - [4/4]) = 22.38}.

This suggests the ~22 year full solar cycles were mainly modulated by the conjunctions of Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn in their ~20 year integral cycle, and were primarily triggered by the Sun-SSB-BJS alignment, which were being perturbed or negated by the alignments of BUN, Sun, and BJS that thus alter its periodicity.

In a span of ~262 years from 1755 to 2017 that had manifested 24 solar cycles, despite Jupiter-Sun-Saturn had completed 26 half cycles (262/10), it had lost 5 quarter cycles (or 2.5 half cycle) to the negation.

This apparently renders the average 11 year solar cycle {262 / (26 - 2.5) = 11.15}.
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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby Vincent Wee-Foo » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:38 pm

Vincent Wee-Foo wrote:In the ~179 year synodic cycle of BUN, Sun, and BJS, the alignment of Sun-SSB-BJS was apparently negated four times by BUN. It was negated two times before and after the superior conjunctions of BUN-Sun-BJS, and also negated two times before and after the inferior conjunctions of BUN-BJS-Sun. One ~20 year full cycle of the Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn conjunction makes 4 alignments of Sun-SSB-BJS, so in 9 full cycles of this conjunction occurring in the ~179 year synodic cycle with the 4 skipped alignments, the negations render the ~22 year full solar cycle {179/(9 - [4/4]) = 22.38}.


For better clarity for the above proposition with minor corrections, the specific periods with elaboration and the solar cycle numbers are inserted herein:

The orbital resonance of the barycenter of Jupiter and Saturn (~59.3 year) and the barycenter of Uranus and Neptune (~172 year) has a near synodic cycle of ~178 year.

In a ~178 year synodic cycle (SC03 Max in 1778 May with >350 sunspots to SC19 Max in 1958 Mar with >350 sunspots) of BUN , Sun, and BJS, the 36 alignments of Sun-SSB-BJS was apparently negated 4 times by BUN. It was negated two times (SC05 Min to SC07 Min) before and after the superior conjunctions of BUN-Sun-BJS, and also negated two times (SC12 Min to SC14 Min) before and after the inferior conjunctions of BUN-BJS-Sun. One ~20 year full cycle of the Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn conjunction makes 4 alignments of Sun-SSB-BJS, so in 9 full cycles (178/20 = 8.9) of this conjunction occurring in the ~178 year near synodic cycle with the 4 negated alignments, the negations render the ~22 year full solar cycle {178/(9 - [4/4]) = 22.25}.

See a paper on "A Solar Cycle Lost in 1793-1800" that suggests a solar cycle was lost before the solar minimum of solar cycle 5.

For reference to the ISN proposed solar cycles and its proposed 11.04 year solar cycle, see "List of solar cycles".
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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby kevin » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:50 am

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-massive-a ... ation.html

Interesting, nes pas?.

I wonder if there are any cats out there, or not unless You observe them.
Same thing with the matrix lines?, I can observe them
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/new ... x-science/


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Re: The case study for the barycenter drivers of the solar c

Unread postby Vincent Wee-Foo » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:59 am

Vincent Wee-Foo wrote:Click to see the Animated charts.

This animation highlights the transit of Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn conjunctions in four quarters for the solar cycles from 12 Max to 16 Max, which the solar minima and solar maxima in this selective period were mostly driven by the alignment of Sun-SSB-BJS.

As shown in the above animation, in the period from 1883 December to 1928 April while there were 10 alignments of Sun-SSB-BJS, one alignment was apparently skipped from manifestation when there was a BUN-Sun-BJS superior conjunction that had occurred before the 1902 Jan solar minimum of solar cycle 14.


Click here to see the skipped alignment that has had occurred just before the solar minimum of solar cycle 14.

The alignment apparently has had occurred in Sep 1901 when Jupiter and Saturn was also aligned with the alignment of BUN-Sun-BJS superior conjunction.

Take note Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn was in their inferior conjunction, and was also aligned with the Sun-SSB alignment.

This alignment in Sep 1901 was actually a very optimized Sun-SSB-BJSUN alignment, and could well be the actual solar minimum of solar cycle 14. Instead, it should be the Sun-SSB-BJS alignment in Jan 1902 that was negated from manifesting the solar maximum of solar cycle 15.

In another perspective, the ISN proposed solar minimum of solar cycle 14 in Jan 1902, could have been the solar maximum of solar cycle 15 if its Sun-SSB-BJS alignment was not negated by the very optimized Sun-SSB-BJSUN alignment that was preceding it just 4 months ago.
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