Leak Project Interview

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Leak Project Interview

Unread post by tholden » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:17 am

18,000 Views in a couple of weeks...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUu3kveipAA&t=686s

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Re: Leak Project Interview

Unread post by moses » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:10 pm

Good work Ted. Get that cough fixed though! Rex Bear is really starting to catch on. Of course I don't agree with some of the Ganymede theory but i did write that humans co-existing with dinosaurs was not on, but I shall qualify that by stating that gravity must have been lower in dinosaur times and so humanoids could have been much larger. And there is evidence of giants in those days, but probably not humans like us then.

It was the general EU Velikovsky-type history that stands out in such videos, and Wal did a video with Rex pretty recently which also covered a lot of the basic material. I was very surprised that Wal suggested that Earth was on a very elliptical orbit at some stage and that this caused the ice ages whereas I thought I originated that idea. Wal was also asked about how the asteroids formed and he considered the possibility of Earth and Mars having an interaction or interactions that produced the asteroids, which I also thought was my idea. I'm uninterested who thought of it first but find it difficult to understand why Wal did not consider Mars and Earth nearby each other and the conjunctions with a lot of the other planets being the cause of very large electrical events.

But still it is good to see such discussions of EU.
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Re: Leak Project Interview

Unread post by tholden » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:52 pm

The basic ideas of the Ganymede hypothesis are not complicated. Starting from the most common idea of solar systems forming up from swirling masses of dust or plasma, you would anticipate the spin axes of the bodies in a solar system to all be roughly perpendicular to the plane of the system. That, of course, is not what we find within our own system.

Within our system, we have the sun, Jupiter, and Mercury which do look sort of like that, all with axis tilts less than 10°. You should assume that those three bodies were an original system. But it starts to get strange from there. Venus and Uranus have oddball axis tilts and each has its own separate little story. But the other four main bodies in the system, Neptune, Saturn, Mars, and Earth all have the same roughly 26° axis tilt. That is a huge anomaly.

You have to assume that those four bodies were captured as a group, probably recently, but then you get to the question of why being captured as a group would cause all four to have roughly the same axis tilt. 

The answer is as follows: early solar systems do not form up from swirling clouds of dust being acted upon by gravity. They're formed by the Birkeland currents which you see in space which are created by the charge separation over immense distances in space. A Birkeland current is a twisted pair of currents looking somewhat like an RNA/DNA string. At the point at which these pairs of currents cross each other, you have electrical short-circuiting and what is called Z-pinch effect. Those pinch points have more than enough power to agglomerate the plasma of space into much more solid objects, proto-stars and stars. A Birkeland current with such bodies at its pinch points is called a Herbig/Haro string, basically an early solar system. These things look like a shish kebab in which the shishes are lit up, that is, like a string of Christmas tree lights with the wires pulled taught.

What appears to be the case is that the southern system (Neptune, Saturn, Mars, Earth), some tens of thousands of years ago, was still in the form of such an electromagnetic alignment and flew into the plane of the sun/Jupiter/Mercury system from the South at a roughly 26° angle and, as the individual bodies peeled off and began to orbit the way they do now, ordinary gyroscopic force caused them to retain that 26° angle of approach in the form of axis tilts.

That also says that, prior to that final capture event, our system was a double system with a very bright northern part, and then a very dark southern part. Rocky bodies like Earth and Mars aligned with a dwarf star such as Saturn was at that time, will most often be INSIDE the plasma heliosphere of that dwarf star. Radiant energy will bounce off the interior of that plasma heliosphere and then on to the Rocky bodies from every direction so that something living on that body won’t just freeze, but the entire middle part of the light spectrum simply be missing.

The literature speaks of red and Brown dwarf stars but the reality is that what you would get within such a system would be a very deep dark purple, hence the notion of a “Purple Dawn” which you read about in mythology books and which the oral traditions of the oldest human groups describe. Thus also amongst the old creatures of the earth (lemurs, tarsiers, Bush babies, owls etc.) and particularly amongst dinosaurs and hominids such as the Neanderthal, you see huge eye sockets and eyes adapted for such a darkish environment. Neanderthal eyes sockets are very much larger than ours.

Humans and Dolphins have the smallest relative eye sizes of advanced creatures; you have to assume that they arose within the bright side of that ancient double system. And there was one particular place within that ancient northern system, i.e. Jupiter’s largest moon, Ganymede, which would have been a freshwater ocean world under those conditions with both islands and floating bergs of pumice and luxuriant vegetation. In other words, an ideal home world for humans.

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Re: Leak Project Interview

Unread post by moses » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:13 pm

If stellar systems formed out of beads on Birkeland currents then because of the "S" shape or helical shape of such currents then it may well be that the star and planets are born spinning but at different angles of tilt. Even a star under a lot of electrical stress may break into two stars and many planets in between these two stars but they would not be in a straight line but rather in the "S" shape of the Birkeland current that is stressing that original star.

So I don't see planets just popping out of stars or dwarfs or planets. Venus was just heated up in a prolonged interaction with probably Jupiter or Saturn. I do see Earth-sized planets which have a strongish magnetic field like Earth or Ganymede as being formed by an electrical current running through them and resulting in a remanent magnetic field. Such a field will slowly decay and that is what we see on earth except that sunspots or the lack of them can temporarily change the magnetic field around Earth. So Ganymede may well have been part of the inner Solar System in the past and got zapped during conjunctions just as Earth did.

Thus Ganymeded may even had been part of the Velikovsky-type interactions and material could have passed from Ganymede to Earth during an interaction. And then later the orbit of Ganymede took it too close to Jupiter and it got captured by Jupiter. I see the darker planet as just having enhanced auroras and thus meeting the no-star sky condition.

So in summary, you may be basically correct Ted, and exploring Ganymede is a must, however the Saturn System theory is just too hard and easier theories exist.
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Re: Leak Project Interview

Unread post by moses » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:23 pm

A recent article has put an evolutionary bottleneck about 100,000 to 200,000 years ago which is in the ice ages. So I am translating that to mean that after the break up of the previous configuration of planets whilst Earth was in a very elliptical orbit many species were wiped out and other species only had very few survivors who went on to be considered a new species.

So this is like the dinosaur extinction event only less severe. So we are to consider whether this resulted from an Earth-Ganymede interaction or was it just a matter of the new species, including humans, being better able to adapt to the new environment. And so there suddenly being bright sunlight meant that humanoids with smaller eyes had an advantage. Also one has to consider whether dinosaurs actually ever lived on Earth or whether they were deposited from Ganymede during a Earth-Ganymede interaction. Other points include the possibility of water coming from Ganymede thus raising the ocean sea levels.

There ae lots of possibilities.
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