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Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Unread post by bboyer » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:19 pm

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Plasmatic MnemoHistory wrote: Ive been following the thread and doing some research and found some very interestng pics of ancient murals depicting the polar configuration along with the very symbols as seen in the cymatics video.ill post them when i get to a coffe shop.
But i have an interesting idea as to how to see if plasma will generate as a medium , the same symbols.Does anyone have a Tesla coil?

Patiently awaiting follow-up. :evil:

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Im dying to do this experiment as well,l but I cant afford a coil right now .I have a feeling it will be most successful!
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Those are to small.I need one that will produce approx.12 in filaments and needs no gas supply.A guy will build me one for 150.00.But I cant justify it to my wife right now.
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Very interesting if you haven't read about this before... a link between sound and early astronomy?

Acoustic properties of chambered cairns

http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/tombs/ ... ustics.htm
http://www.orkneyjar.com/archaeology/earlyrock.htm

Standing Waves

Experiments with chanting in the cairn saw the volume and intensity of the sound become enhanced, with the noise filling the interior so completely it became difficult to determine the source.
In Maeshowe, a drum was used and the researchers discovered that the correct frequency was 2 hz. This is an "infrasonic frequency" which means that, although they are inaudible to humans, they can be felt as distinct physical, or psychological, sensations.


A 1hr audio by an acoustic archaeologist who tries to separate science and the art of experience, how we interpret experience, and those who "control" experience.

http://www.sound-space.info/media/symposium_aw.pls hacked url
http://www.sound-space.info/media/ss_sy ... watson.mp3 hacked url

see http://www.sound-space.info/2007/prog.htm instead -- moderator

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lite-brite wrote: Very interesting if you haven't read about this before... a link between sound and early astronomy?

Acoustic properties of chambered cairns

http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/tombs/ ... ustics.htm
]http://www.orkneyjar.com/archaeology/earlyrock.htm
Standing Waves

Experiments with chanting in the cairn saw the volume and intensity of the sound become enhanced, with the noise filling the interior so completely it became difficult to determine the source.
In Maeshowe, a drum was used and the researchers discovered that the correct frequency was 2 hz. This is an "infrasonic frequency" which means that, although they are inaudible to humans, they can be felt as distinct physical, or psychological, sensations.


A 1hr audio by an acoustic archaeologist who tries to separate science and the art of experience, how we interpret experience, and those who "control" experience.

http://www.sound-space.info/media/symposium_aw.pls
http://www.sound-space.info/media/ss_sy ... watson.mp3

I listened to the audio presentation. It was interesting. Too bad he doesn't have some grounding in EU-related mythology to make further connections from there.

Reminded me of the acoustics reports from the Great Pyramid (particularly when it's closed up and zero visibility inside) and the ball court at Kukulcan, Chitzen Itza.

Speaking of which, here's an interesting site that possibly answers many questions about how the Great Pyramid was built. I haven't read through the site extensively, saving it for later, but I thought it'd be great if he would do his analysis at other sites like Stonehenge and the Central American pyramids etc. I'd ran across the theory two or three years ago but didn't know there'd been any actual testing done until running across this several days ago.

Engineering the Pyramids: Cast, Stone, or Both?
http://www.materials.drexel.edu/Pyramids/

Webcast of 2/23/07 Seminar
http://media.irt.drexel.edu/mediasite/v ... 08a26de747

Note that halfway down the main page where the above link to the webcast is there are also links to download pdf's of the presentation for either viewing or printing.

This would explain how they were able to achieve such perfectly rounded figures and artifacts, machined-like grooves and precision cornering, for example, as pointed out in Christopher Dunn's book, The Giza Power Plant. ( http://www.gizapower.com/ , http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/return.html)

Then there's the other side (cast geopolymers) also at:

The Giza Powerplant Meltdown
http://margaretmorrisbooks.com/giza_pow ... tdown.html

When will Chris Dunn debate Margaret Morris
http://www.margaretmorrisbooks.com/mddebate.html

Barsoum's site at Drexel seems a little more credible in that he's not promoting a book. Plus he's done actual analysis that you can learn about without having to buy something. I don't recall if Morris had actually done any of that herself or if her contribution was basically the theory itself or maybe just its prime promoter. And, jeeze, I don't know what the history is there and all, what's up with her and her apparent dopey mission to get Dunn or whatever, but she sure comes across as something annoying with her fixation on repeating the poor fellow's full name every sentence at the debate link!

EDIT:072007: Well, I made it through the Giza Power Plant Meltdown page and while the reading wasn't easy (could be an IE7 problem formatting it correctly? - lots of double words at the end/beginning of sentences), she has some very good points regarding the case for geopolymerized stone masonry. May have to breakdown and order her book afterall.

Regardless of how it was constructed the end result sure seems to amount to a tuned resonator; for whatever purpose, at whenever time, under whichever conditions.

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Yes, I have seen the power plant hypothesis before. The cast blocks, however, is new. Were they cast in place?

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lite-brite wrote: Yes, I have seen the power plant hypothesis before. The cast blocks, however, is new. Were they cast in place?

Dead link:
Webcast of 2/23/07 Seminar
http://media.irt.drexel.edu/mediasite/v ... 08a26de747

Hmmm. Worked a couple days ago. Maybe they'll put it back up. The pdf's of the slideshow are still there. Sounds like they were cast in place, but not necessarily using molds. Morris also talks about many other megaliths of varying size as well as the small ornamental artifacts. Also, Mesopotamia, where she says the art was also known excepting that their method required heat whereas the Egyptian method did not. Would be fascinating for an analysis to be done in other areas as I already mentioned. There's some detail in her meltdown link but would probably need to buy the book to access the bulk of it.

Snapshot of one of the slides of the smaller pdf from Barsoum's site at Drexel:
pyramid.jpg
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Short, ~5 min., youtube video LINK: How the pyramids where (sic) built in Egypt

Seems like resonance would be much more achievable incorporating this method than a theory of 100% carved stone. Also, apparently casting can be done with or without molding and onsite or off - according to Margaret Morris's site posted earlier.

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Joseph Davidovitz's evidence that some of the blocks of or near the pyramids were poured seems excellent. He found the shells etc tended to be concentrated toward the bottoms and impurities were found in them, like human hairs. Pouring the blocks would have been much easier than carrying whole blocks. And it would be natural for the seams between them to be extremely thin, if each block was poured next to existing blocks. He even invented a similar strong type of masonry production that's highly durable and used to sell it in Europe to builders. He said ancient people also had similar masonry that was made into jars and these were used on sea-going ships to purify seawater. The jars were porous to water, but not to salt. Look what a cheap solution that would be to the world's water shortages, a much cheaper method than conventional desalination.

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lk wrote: Joseph Davidovitz's evidence that some of the blocks of or near the pyramids were poured seems excellent. He found the shells etc tended to be concentrated toward the bottoms and impurities were found in them, like human hairs. Pouring the blocks would have been much easier than carrying whole blocks. And it would be natural for the seams between them to be extremely thin, if each block was poured next to existing blocks. He even invented a similar strong type of masonry production that's highly durable and used to sell it in Europe to builders. He said ancient people also had similar masonry that was made into jars and these were used on sea-going ships to purify seawater. The jars were porous to water, but not to salt. Look what a cheap solution that would be to the world's water shortages, a much cheaper method than conventional desalination.

so someone has a mix of ceramics that is a semi-permeable membrane and it can be used to purify seawater?

salt in solution in water isn't going to be excluded from the water by allowing it to pass through such a rudimentary device;

if it were even a reality it would have been passed down through the ages and we would be using the technique today.

i would rather try inverting a cows bladder and giving that a try as a method to de-salinate water.

that's just an off-the-cuff abstract thought;

maybe it will set off some real thinking here.
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lite-brite wrote: ....

Dead link:
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http://media.irt.drexel.edu/mediasite/v ... 08a26de747

Link is good, at least right now it is. The presenters seems to be technically-challenged in the sound department - Prof. Barsoum's mic has problems and goes dead in a few spots. Around the 10min and 55min marks. If you click on the slide show window it will enlarge it in a separate window, also in sync with the talk. It's a shame they didn't handle the sound problem since it detracts from the presentation. 1hr 19min.

He also uses the video that is the same as the 5min youtube video posted above - it isn't understandable in his presentation so you may want to view the youtube video to see what that portion is all about.

The presentation is worth watching if nothing else for his experience in publishing his findings and with mainstream science in crossing disciplinary boundaries.

The silica nanospheres portion is quite interesting, too. Of course, the professor is also using the context of mainstream dates and dating methodology.

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O.k. Here is a little example of the pics I spoke of!

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Notice
1. The plasma torus /squatter configuration at the top.

2.The separatrix, x pattern /hour glass resonance shape on the pillar along with what reminds me of the 7-9 torus stacks/level.

3.Of course the axis mundi /world pillar

4. The stairway to heaven/Jacobs ladder

5.The bird/cometary imagery at the top by what reminds me of the crecent of saturn imagery

6. And in the left most tower has what looks like a head?Saturn before the venesian flare up?

This is a drwing of a mural from Haran where the Mandean people still retain tons of ancient polar concepts.

These shapes"separatrix" are all over Mayan Temples as well!

What do you think?

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Plasmatic MnemoHistory wrote: O.k. Here is a little example of the pics I spoke of!

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What do you think?

I think it's a great picture, loaded with symbols. Looks like the basic elements are all there. As to the separatrix, the similarity to the "Red Square Nebula" is unmistakable, from here Seeing Discharges (scroll down the page - near the bottom is one that has been manually rotated to vertical alignment -- [link to old forum no longer valid]).

Thanks, PM.

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The Memory of Water
The Memory of Molecules

Am revisiting this information from when I ran across it some time around 2002 according to the file dates on my computer. What are the implications in all this for the aether? For human memory? For consciousness (collective and otherwise)? For collective memory? For further understanding how it is the same immaterial energy manifesting through many facets of materialization?

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The memory of molecules

Can molecules communicate with each other, exchanging information without being in physical contact? French biologist Jacques Benveniste believes so, but his scientific peers are still sceptical. By Lionel Milgrom

Jacques Benveniste was once considered to be one of France's most respected biologists, until he was cast adrift from the scientific mainstream. His downfall began in 1988 when he infuriated the scientific community with experimental results which he took as evidence to suggest that water has a memory. His ideas were seized upon by homeopaths keen to find support for their theories on highly diluted medicines, but were condemned by scientific purists. Now, Benveniste believes he has evidence to suggest that it may one day be possible to transmit the curative power of life-saving drugs around the world - via the Internet.

It sounds like science fiction and Benveniste will have a hard time convincing a deeply sceptical world that he is right. Nevertheless, he began his campaign last week when he announced the latest research to come out of his Digital Biology Laboratory near Paris, to a packed audience of scientists at the Pippard Lecture Theatre at Cambridge University's Cavendish Physics Laboratory. Benveniste suggested that the specific effects of biologically active molecules such as adrenalin, nicotine and caffeine, and the immunological signatures of viruses and bacteria, can be recorded and digitised using a computer sound-card. A keystroke later, and these signals can be winging their way across the globe, courtesy of the Internet. Biological systems far away from their activating molecules can then - he suggested - be triggered simply by playing back the recordings.

Most scientists have dismissed Benveniste as being on the fringe, although there were some famous names in the audience last week, including Sir Andrew Huxley, Nobel laureate and past president of the Royal Society, and the physicist Professor Brian Josephson, also a Nobel laureate. Benveniste started by asking some apparently childish questions. If molecules could talk, what would they sound like? More specifically, can we eavesdrop on their conversations, record them, and play them back? The answer to these last three questions is, according to Benveniste, a resounding "Oui!" He further suggested that these "recordings" can make molecules respond in the same way as they do when they react. Contradicting the way biologists think biochemical reactions occur, he claims molecules do not have to be in close proximity to affect each other. "It's like listening to Pavarotti or Elton John," Benveniste explained. "We hear the sound and experience emotions, whether they're live or on CD."

For example, anger produces adrenalin. When adrenalin molecules bind to their receptor sites, they set off a string of biological events that, among other things, make blood vessels contract. Biologists say that adrenalin is acting as a molecular signalling device but, Benveniste asks, what is the real nature of the signal? And how come the adrenalin molecules specifically target their receptors and no others, at incredible speed? According to Benveniste, if the cause of such biochemical events were simply due to random collisions between adrenalin molecules and their receptors (the currently accepted theory of molecular signalling), then it should take longer than it does to get angry.

Benveniste became the bete noire of the French scientific establishment back in 1988, when a paper he had published in the science journal Nature was later rubbished by the then editor, Sir John Maddox, and a team that included a professional magician, James Randi. With an international group of scientists from Canada, France, Israel and Italy, Benveniste had claimed that vigorously shaking water solutions of an antibody could evoke a biological response, even when that antibody was diluted out of existence. Non-agitated solutions produced little or no effect. Nature said that the results of the experiment that produced the "ghostly antibodies" were, frankly, unbelievable. The journal itself came in for criticism for publishing the paper in the first place. (emphasis added)

In his Nature paper, Benveniste reasoned that the effect of dilution and agitation pointed to transmission of biological information via some molecular organisation going on in water. This "memory of water" effect, as it was later known, proved Benveniste's academic undoing. For while the referees of his Nature paper could not fault Benveniste's experimental procedures, they could not understand his results. How, they asked, can a biological system respond to an antigen when no molecules of it can be detected in solution? It goes against the accepted "lock-and-key" principle, which states that molecules must be in contact and structurally match before information can be exchanged. Such thinking has dominated the biological sciences for more than four decades, and is itself rooted in the views of the 17th-century French philosopher Rene Descartes.

Nature's attempted debunking exercise failed to find evidence of fraud, but concluded that Benveniste's research was essentially unreproducible, a claim he has always denied. From being a respected figure in the French biological establishment, Benveniste was pilloried, losing his government funding and his laboratory. Undeterred, he and his now-depleted research team somehow continued to investigate the biological effects of agitated, highly dilute solutions. The latest results are, for biologists, even more incredible than those in the 1988 Nature paper. Physicists, however, should have less of a problem as their discipline is based on fields (eg gravitational, electromagnetic) which have well-established long-range effects. If Benveniste's claims prove to be true - which is far from certain - they could have profound consequences, not least for medical diagnostics.

Benveniste's explanation starts innocuously enough with a musical analogy. Two vibrating strings close together in frequency will produce a "beat". The length of this beat increases as the two frequencies approach each other. Eventually, when they are the same, the beat disappears. This is the way musicians tune their instruments, and Benveniste uses the analogy to explain his water-memory theory. Thus, all molecules are made from atoms which are constantly vibrating and emitting infrared radiation in a highly complex manner. These infrared vibrations have been detected for years by scientists, and are a vital part of their armoury of methods for identifying molecules.

However, precisely because of the complexity of their infrared vibrations, molecules also produce much lower "beat" frequencies. It turns out that these beats are within the human audible range (20 to 20,000 Hertz) and are specific for every different molecule. Thus, as well as radiating in the infrared region, molecules also broadcast frequencies in the same range as the human voice. This is the molecular signal that Benveniste detects and records.

If molecules can broadcast, then they should also be able to receive. The specific broadcast of one molecular species will be picked up by another, "tuned" by its molecular structure to receive it. Benveniste calls this matching of broadcast with reception "co-resonance", and says it works like a radio set. Thus, when you tune your radio to, say, Classic FM, both your set and the transmitting station are vibrating at the same frequency. Twitch the dial a little, and you're listening to Radio 1: different tuning, different sounds
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This, Benveniste claims, is how millions of biological molecules manage to communicate at the speed of light with their own corresponding molecule and no other. It also explains why minute changes in the structure of a molecule can profoundly alter its biological effect. It is not that these tiny structural changes make it a bad fit with its biological receptor (the classical lock-and-key approach). The structural modifications "detune" the molecule to its receptor. What is more, and just like radio sets and receivers, the molecules do not have to be close together for communication to take place.

So what is the function of water in all this? Benveniste explains this by pointing out that all biological reactions occur in water. The water molecules completely surround every other molecule placed among them. A single protein molecule, for example, will have a fan club of at least 10,000 admiring water molecules. And they are not just hangers-on. Benveniste believes they are the agents that in fact relay and amplify the biological signal coming from the original molecule.

It is like a CD which, by itself, cannot produce a sound but has the means to create it etched into its surface. In order for the sound to be heard, it needs to be played back through an electronic amplifier. And just as Pavarotti or Elton John is on the CD only as a "memory", so water can memorise and amplify the signals of molecules that have been dissolved and diluted out of existence. The molecules do not have to be there, only their "imprint" on the solution in which they are dissolved. Agitation makes the memory. (emphasis added) (agitation, as in ... catastrophe ... in the context of first global, cultural memories? ....)

So what do molecules sound like? "At the moment we don't quite know," says Didier Guillonnet, Benveniste's colleague at the Digital Research Laboratory. "When we record a molecule such as caffeine, for example, we should get a spectrum, but it seems more like noise. However, when we play the caffeine recording back to a biological system sensitive to it, the system reacts. We are only recording and replaying; at the moment we cannot recognise a pattern." "But," Benveniste adds, "the biological systems do. We've sent the caffeine signal across the Atlantic by standard telecommunications and it's still produced an effect."

The effect is measured on a "biological system" such as a piece of living tissue. Benveniste claims, for instance, that the signal from molecules of heparin - a component of the blood-clotting system - slows down coagulation of blood when transmitted over the Internet from a laboratory in Europe to another in the US. If true, it will undoubtedly earn Benveniste a Nobel prize. If not, he will receive only more scorn.

Benveniste's ideas are revolutionary - many might say heretical or misguided - and he is unlikely to persuade his most ardent critics. Although his ideas may seem plausible enough, he will win over his enemies only if his results can be replicated by other laboratories. So far this has not been done to the satisfaction of his many detractors.

published in The Independent, March 19th., 1999.

http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/wat ... 0Cambridge
WHERE IS THE HERESY ?

Where is the heresy? What is "hard to reconcile with what we know about molecules?" ( D. Herscbach, Nature, 395, 535, 1998).
Why the fuss, excommunication, resentment, insults, injuries and, last but not least, the crash landing of fraud-seeking commandos? Will the eternal "Understand I do not, therefore it is not" prevail forever in science? Can we not say once and for all "bye-bye" to Galileo-style prosecution and replace it with genuine scientific debate? Given my painful ten-year experience, we may as well start by throwing out the 'pire-review' system which has become, behind its facade of excellence, the main antibody blocking the nearly deceased scientific free exchange, which once was the cornerstone of scientific progress.

Jacques Benveniste, M.D.
email: jbenveniste@digibio.com
Clamart, France
December, 1998
http://www.digibio.com/perso/~jb/heresy.htm
"This JB Fr&Fo's Corner (Jacques Benveniste Friends & Foes Corner) welcomes your comments and debate of the epistemological, sociological, and philosophical aspects of the research and controversy on the" memory of water" discovery, which is now centered on the physical nature of the biological signal and on the role of water in its transmission."
LINK: http://www.digibio.com/perso/~jb/

LINK: MOLECULAR SIGNALING | What is so unacceptable for ultra-orthodox scientists?
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....The truth, based on facts, is very simple. It does not require any "collapse of the physical or chemical worlds." That molecules vibrate, we have known for decades. Every atom of every molecule and every intermolecular bond-the bridge that links the atoms-emits a group of specific frequencies. Specific frequencies of simple or complex molecules are detected at distances of billions of light-years, thanks to radio-telescopes. Biophysicists describe these frequencies as an essential physical characteristic of matter, but biologists do not consider that electromagnetic waves can play a role in molecular functions themselves. We cannot find the words "frequency" or "signal" (in the physical sense of the term) in any treatise on molecular interactions in biology, not to speak of the term "electromagnetic," use of which would be - at least in France - a cause for excommunication of any offending biologist by the scientific Papal Office...

Like Archimedes, I would have liked to have had a brilliant idea in my bathtub: "Eureka, the vibrations of molecules don't exist for them to dance the salsa at a Saturday night ball; vibrations are the tools of their trade, which allow them to send instructions to the next molecule down the line in the cascade of events which govern biological functions, and probably, to a large extent, chemical ones as well." Unfortunately, this was not the case. I followed a purely experimental approach. After eight years of research, around 1991, my experiments showed that we could transfer specific molecular signals by using an amplifier and electromagnetic coils. In July, 1995, I recorded and replayed these signals using a multimedia computer. A computer sound card only records frequencies up to about 20,000 Hz. In the course of several thousand experiments, we have led receptors (specific to simple or complex molecules) to "believe" that they are in the presence of their favorite molecules by playing the recorded frequencies of those molecules. In order to arrive at this result, two operations are necessary: 1) record the activity of the substance on a computer; 2) "replay" it to a biological system. sensitive to the same substance. Therefore, there is every reason to think that when a molecule itself is in the presence of its receptor, it does the same thing: it emits frequencies which the receptor is capable of recognizing.

Which means that a molecular signal can be efficiently represented by a spectrum of frequencies between 20Hz and 20,000 Hz, the same range as the human hearing or music. For several hundred thousand years, human beings have been relating sound frequencies to a biological mechanism: the emotions. Composers of background music for supermarkets or elevators are practicing neuropsychology without knowing it. High-pitched rapid sounds engender lightness of spirit, high-pitched slow sounds, sweetness, sounds both deep and rapid awaken the fighting spirit, while deep, slow sounds invoke serious emotions, sadness and mourning. These are fundamentally cerebral physico-chemical phenomena, triggered by defined frequencies. We do nothing more than this when we transmit pre-recorded molecular activities to biological systems.

Therefore, one may hypothesize that biological systems function like radio sets, by coresonance. If you tune a receiver to 92.6 MHz, you tune in Radio-This, because the receiver and the transmitter vibrate at the same frequency. If we change the setting a little to, say, 92.7, we no longer receive Radio-This, but Radio-That instead.

These advances in understanding the inmost mechanism of molecular recognition and signaling do not overturn the science of biology, and even less those of physics and chemistry. We have taken nothing away from classic descriptions, but only taken a step forward by adding to the present body of knowledge. This is the normal course of scientific progress, and there is no reason for it to provoke imprecations and anathema.

The electromagnetic nature of the molecular signal sheds light on many shadowy areas of biology. We can now understand how millions of biological molecules can communicate (at the speed of light), each with its own corresponding molecule, and it alone, the basic requirement for the functioning of biological systems...and why minute chemical modifications produce considerable functional consequences, something "structural" biologists are at a loss to explain. In deciding that only structures can have an action, biologists find themselves in a pre-Newtonian world where the movement of celestial bodies is described by Ptolemy in terms of epicycles. Hence the inability of contemporary biology to provide answers to the major pathologies of the end of this century (my article in Le Monde, May 22, 1996, which has not been challenged to date). The passage from the rigid biology of structures to one of information traveling at the speed of light can be accomplished without a "revolution." Contrary to what is stupidly claimed by scientific gossips, recording the activity of molecules no more implies denying their existence (after all, molecule-specific electromagnetic messages must come from specific molecules) than it does denying the law of mass action, according to which the effect is directly proportional to the number of molecules. One might as well expect a singer to disappear by recording his voice! In other words, we eliminate neither the light-switch nor the light bulb; we only say that a wire with a current of electrons connects the two. We are not in another, electromagnetic world which we are substituting for the old molecular world. We capture, copy, transfer-and soon will modify-electromagnetic signals emitted by molecules in the course of their normal functioning.

What about water in all this? It is the vehicle for information. This cannot be avoided, since there are 10,000 water molecules in the human body for every molecule of protein. There is no problem with this either; a submarine communicates with its base via low-frequency electromagnetic waves, not with megahertz frequencies, which do not penetrate water. We have recently completed very simple experiments showing that a molecule at a normally active concentration does not work in a medium devoid of water. Adding water is not enough to restore activity; it must be "informed." In other words, when molecules trigger a biological effect, they are not directly transmitting the signal. The final job is done by perimolecular water which relays and possibly amplifies the signal. Sound is not directly created by a compact disc. The latter carries data which is audible only after being amplified by an electronic system. (emphasis added)(peri- prefix: 1. around, about, enclosing;perimysium 2. near; perinatal. Gk, from peri, around, near)

The "memory of water?" It is more mysterious, but no more so than the fact that a compound formed from two gases should be liquid at normal temperature and pressure, and dilate as it cools. Coherent domains with laser-like properties have been described in water (E. del Giudice, G. Preparata, G. Vitiello (1988) 'Water as a free electric dipole laser', Phys. Rev. Lett. 61:1085-1088). More recently, a unique type of stable (non-melting) ice crystal that maintains an electrical field has been identified and characterized in water. Truly, unemployment should not be a worry for physicists! Nonetheless, water is not our subject of investigation. What interests us is not the nature of the magnetic medium and how it functions, but the message recorded in it, which can be copied and transmitted. In the light of our experimental results, we are confident in our belief that we have elucidated the physical nature of the molecular signal. The principle is as simple as exploding a mixture of air and gasoline, but the consequences are enormous....

(article continues at From "Water Memory" effects To "Digital Biology"...

On the subject of reproducible results:
....

We then realized the difficulty in “exporting” a method which is very far from conventional biology. Also, individual variations of the operator’s performance and unexpected modifications to “improve” the method could explain these erratic results. We then decided to automatize this method in order to eliminate the distorting effects of human intervention. The automatic analyzer was operational early October 2000. “Operational” means that the operator, after having centrifuged the thawed decalcified sheep plasma stored at -20°C, simply place it in a rack alongside with water-Ca2+ to be “informed” and set plastic tubes in another rack. After clicking on “start”, data are displayed on the computer screen about 90 minutes later. Three experiments of four signals each can be conducted before a new human intervention, essentially to set up new empty tubes in the rack. It took a few weeks more to built missing devices, tune up the machine and understand the conditions for it to function in a consistent manner. Since then, it has yielded positive results in about 90% of the experiments.

As an example, from Nov 15 to Nov 24, 2000, we have identified blind 104 heparin from 104 control signals. Twelve heparin signals were negative, some failures being due to a faulty mechanical part of the machine and some to non-reactive plasmas. We have built a second machine (thanks to two generous donators) which is now in an external laboratory where independent researchers will perform the experiment in the coming weeks. We can reasonably expect to bring one of the two machines (and, if we find the funds, about $40,000, a third one) to a foreign laboratory, in the UK and in the USA.

(continues at)

2001 Update (newsletter)
http://www.digibio.com/doc/nl2001-1us.pdf

LINK: Video of the automated Plasma Coagulation experiment
This movie is 13 minutes long.
It shows a full length experiment of blood coagulation delayed with the electromagnetic signal of the Heparin anti-coagulant.

LINK:Electromagnetically Activated Water and the Puzzle of the Biological Signal links to Cavendish Laboratory at University of Cambridge
There is something beyond our mind which abides in silence within our mind. It is the supreme mystery beyond thought. Let one's mind and one's subtle body rest upon that and not rest on anything else. [---][/---] Maitri Upanishad

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