Two Suns

[Shelgeyr]

It is a perishingly rare occasion where I find that I wish I'd been in China at some point.
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Nice post, and thanks!

Sadly, I have nothing intelligent to add in terms of an EU-oriented explanation, so I must leave it to wiser heads...

[Dotini]

This same article was posted March 8 in the NIAMI sub-forum. The author, Terrence Aym, is notorious around the world for imparting the most lurid possible interpretation to what would otherwise be interesting phenomena.

Respectfully submitted,
Dotini

[highwic]

On Planet X - I'd say it might be possible that a "dark planet" could exist in close proximity to Earth or at least as part of the Solar System that we don't know about, but from what I've read into it(not really that much admittedly) the whole Planet X mythology mainly seems based on misinterpretations of certain text's often involving purposefully ignoring certain parts of the information available.


Jonny

Misinterpret this then.............http://www.thekolbrin.com/kolbrin_b5.html chapters 3,4,5 The Destroyer Parts 1-3


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[CTJG 1986]

On Planet X - I'd say it might be possible that a "dark planet" could exist in close proximity to Earth or at least as part of the Solar System that we don't know about, but from what I've read into it(not really that much admittedly) the whole Planet X mythology mainly seems based on misinterpretations of certain text's often involving purposefully ignoring certain parts of the information available.


Jonny

Misinterpret this then.............http://www.thekolbrin.com/kolbrin_b5.html chapters 3,4,5 The Destroyer Parts 1-3


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Hello,

I'm quite familiar with the Nibiru myths, but you seem under the impression that there is only one possible interpretation of them.

Though I should not have used the word 'misinterpret' as mythology is pretty much entirely based in interpretation, it would have been more appropriate to say they interpret the myths in a way I personally do not agree with.

From an EU, Saturn Model perspective or even a non-Saturnian PC 'ancient aurora' view those myths have a number of far more likely interpretations that have nothing to do with a rogue 'Planet X'.

So as I said I don't rule out the possibility of a Planet X scenario, but based on EU/PC views there are more likely explanations for the myths which I personally tend to favor.

Jonny

[highwic]

maybe some viewing of this presentation will educate you to the existence of the brown dwarf star Wormwood
http://www.rabbithole2.com/video.htm

[StevenJay]

maybe some viewing of this presentation will educate you to the existence of the brown dwarf star Wormwood.

Unfortunately, half-baked internet regurgetations like that are a dime a dozen. In this case, it was beyond laughable, IMO. Every time the author opened his mouth, he showed his abject ignorance of whatever he was referring to.

[lizzie]

Nevertheless debunking your sources as “half-baked internet regurgitations” doesn’t mean that a brown dwarf might not exist, only that your “information” may not be “accurate” whatever that means. After all who is to say that the “information” NASA presents us with is accurate or inaccurate. We have to rely on their “integrity” and “good faith”. Do “scientists” ever dissemble? Debunking can be used just as easily to discredit “legitimate research”, too, such as what was done to Velikovsky.

I first saw the “second sun” phenomenon back in the summer of 2008; and I’ve seen it more recently. I simply don’t know what it is. And yes I do believe that chemtrails obscure the phenomena by altering/changing polarized light. However, that’s just my “personal opinion” and I can offer no “objective proof” as to what it is in order to satisfy the skeptics and debunkers.

[lizzie]

As to the appearance of the “second sun”, it looked like the “super moon” only I saw it at 7:30 PM DST in June; it was still daylight. I thought at first it might be the moon, but it seemed out of position, too large and too yellow. When I got home I checked the calendar and there was no full moon for another two weeks.

During daylight it appeared as a very large pale yellow orb; but I could look at it face without sunglasses; it didn't bother my eyes at all.

I’ve seen this “super moon” at night and wondered if it was really the “second sun.” IMHO that is not our moon. Other than that I don't care to speculate.

Nibiru or Planet X or 2nd sun...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igf110gp ... re=related

Nibiru hidden by chemtrails?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If-D1nJY ... re=related


MEGA-MOON MoonSET+SUNrise! Boston 3/20/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49hgWN8L ... re=related

Supermoon Rise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyyMhHUF ... re=related

Super Moon rising over Ocean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p9QcOfr ... re=related

[StevenJay]

What is so astonishingly difficult to accept about optical atmospheric phenomena? There are dozens of different kinds with some occurring only very rarely and only under a very specific set of circumstances, while others happen all the time. There is absolutely no viable reason for me to believe this "two suns" event wasn't just that.

But, I guess if one is invested in the whole convoluted Wormwood/Nibiru/Planet X can of worms, then it's gonna get worked in whenever and wherever possible. Just another fear-driven distraction in my book.

[lizzie]

Does “seeing a second sun” happen all the time? It seems to me it’s a rather recent phenomenon.

I am also aware that there are optical illusions and "trick photography"; that’s why I tried to mention “some possibilities” here:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... =15#p49754

I am still waiting for a more definitive “scientific explanation” of the “optical effects.” Nor do I feel that I have anything "invested" in the "Nibiru myth". When I first saw the "object" I thought of it as a second sun. Back in 2008 I thought Nibiru might at best be a "wandering planet".

Nibiru is simply one of several theories out there to explain the phenomenon. Optical illusions and "lens flare" could also be considered alternate theories. Besides, this matrix is an illusion anyway.

Two Suns
http://www.greatdreams.com/twosuns.htm

(Nostradamus) C4, Q29:

"The hidden Sun eclipsed by Mercury
will be placed only second in the heavens.
Hermes will be made the food of Vulcan,
the Sun will be seen pure, shining and golden."

I have theorized that the following quatrain is related:

(Nostradamus) C2, Q41

The great star will burn for seven days,
The cloud will make the sun appear double:
The large mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff changes his abode.

The "large mastiff" in the theory is Canis Major/Sirius/Isis, which corresponds to the Woman with Child in Revelation 12. This is speaking of dreams, visions, inspirations, etc., the communication from the collective unconscious at the end of the cycle.

[kevin]

Lizzie,
Think of a figure of eight.
Think of the centre pont been Alpha and Omega.
Think of time flowing both ways around this loop.
Think of the here and now moment been where along that loop one is.
Think of two loops nearing each other.
Think of this planet in another time loop nearing our here and now moment.
think mother and child etc.
father and son etc.
Think of nearing alpha and omega.
Think of merging of information fields.
Think of alpha and omega been so called black hole.
Just Me thinking.
Kevin

[lizzie]

Kevin said:

Think of a figure of eight.
Think of the centre pont been Alpha and Omega.
Think of time flowing both ways around this loop.
Think of the here and now moment been where along that loop one is.
Think of two loops nearing each other.

Yes, that exactly what I think, too!

Maldek
http://home.tiscali.nl/~gibbon/ssoa/maldek.htm

The solar system at that time consisted of two suns and was a utopian solar system experiencing no destruction or difficulties whatsoever. Maldek and all other planets revolved around both suns in a figure-eight pattern. Mars was covered in large minerals and was a place of spiritual retreat and evolution for those incarnate upon Maldek. Earth was a plant and animal sanctuary in which such kingdoms could experiment with shape, form, and evolution. There was peace throughout the solar system.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 4ec#p47263

Germanic culture and history according to Wiligut would reach back to 228,000 BC. At this time, there were three suns, and Earth was inhabited by giants, dwarfs and other mythical creatures.

Werner von Bülow translates:

"Legend says that two Suns, two wholesome in change rule -- UR and SUN, like the hourglass which turned upside down.

Santur is interpreted as a burnt-out Sun that was still visible at the time of Homer. Rüdiger speculates that this was the center of the solar system hundreds of millennia ago, and he imagines a fight between the new and the old Suns that as decided 330,000 years ago. Santur is seen as the source of power of the Hyperboreans.

http://67.222.49.17/forum/phpBB3/viewto ... 1e4#p47263

As I remarked in Chapter One and now I mention again, it may well be that Sirius C follows a figure-eight orbit around both Sirius A and Sirius B alternately. Perhaps its total orbital period is 50 years and its larger loop period is 32 years. It may orbit in a plane which is at right angles to the plane of Sirius B's orbit. It would genuinely be a 'greater trajectory' because its figure-eight would encompass both of the other stars, but its actual distance and time would still obey Kepler's third law and would not exceed those of Sirius B with the same period.

Planet Xylanthia in the Sirius Star System
http://xylanthia.com/

The planet Xylanthia is located in the Sirius Star System, which is comprised of three stars; Sirius A, B and C. Sirius A and B orbit around Sirius C. Planet Xylanthia orbits around Sirius C, which is a black dwarf star. Xylanthia is the home-planet of the extraterrestrials that visited Earth and founded Atlantis.

Sirius A and Sirius B orbit around Sirius C, which is their center of gravity. This configuration causes Xylanthia to have no night. There is a twilight zone that circles the planet, creating an aurora of glorious colors reflecting through mystic clouds of water vapors, caused by slight temperature changes during the brief and beautiful twilight.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 225#p50151

In the introduction to his book The Holy Science, Sri Yukteswar describes an interesting variant of the Hindu theory of ages. According to him:

...the sun, with its planets and their moons, takes some star for its dual and revolves around it in about 24,000 years of our earth-a celestial phenomenon which causes the backward movement of the equinoctial points around the zodiac. The sun also has another motion by which it revolves round a grand center called Vishnunabhi, which is the seat of the creative power, Brahma, the universal magnetism. Brahma regulates dharma, the mental virtue of the internal world.

Yukteswar goes on to explain that the sun's 24,000 year revolution around its companion star takes the sun progressively closer, and then progressively further away from the mystic center Vishnunabhi. In his system, dharma increases as we approach Vishnunabhi and decreases as we draw away from it. The cycle of yugas takes place twice in each 24,000 year revolution. As the sun recedes from Vishnunabhi, the ages pass in the usual order: Satya, Treta, Dvapara, Kali. As the sun approaches Vishnunabhi, the ages pass in the opposite order: Kali, Dvapara, Treta, Satya.

Multiple Star Orbits
http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/orbits.html

Binary and multiple star systems are very common in our universe. About half of all stars are found in systems containing two or more stars. This web page shows the typical orbits for stars in binary, triple and quadruple star systems. These simulations show perfect star systems with stars of equal masses. Real multiple star systems are usually messier with stars of different masses at very different distances.

[nick c]

highwic,
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