unknown photon cloud

[goldentree]

How would one go about verifying whether or not our system is passing through an interstellar energy cloud? I read this today
http://www.earth-issues.com/2011/06/nas ... e-event-2/

Of course, these stories are almost always embellished, for popular consumption,like tabloids. But occasionally (usually afterwards) threads of truth are exposed.

[goldentree]

You will have to forgive me, I am so curious. Would this "sea of magnetic bubbles" story not be the same idea?
http://www.space.com/11884-nasa-bubbles ... -edge.html

[orrery]

You might be interested in my old thread here:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4486

Also, check out IBEX if you have not done so yet.

[goldentree]

Hi, thanks for the link to your thread. I will have to work my way through the concepts presented there.
Here is why I am posting. To me, the concept of magnetic bubbles seems like a childs view of Voyagers data. Great, I think children see the world more clearly. This mind set has me wondering as to what a photon “cloud” would look like. Are clouds not cells of water? Don’t plasma and water behave similarly? Have I wandered to far off the path? Can I get directions from the EU community? Is it agreed photons are real or are they dreamed up along with math equations?

[flyingcloud]

if electrons excite to eject a photon
what's all the excitement about

[goldentree]

The Sun is embedded in the Local Fluff?
The solar wind is described as a "vast stream of ions". But they are just talking about plasma, right? Nothing to see here. Okay...
Interstellar cloud is the generic name given to an accumulation of gas, plasma and dust in our and other galaxies. A photon cloud is science fiction? But it is derived from an observed phenomenon?
If our region of space were becoming more electrically active, who will herald the news. NASA can't even use the term plasma. Wish I could apologize for being so blonde, but all this information is scattered.

[Sparky]

:lol:
The Sun is embedded in the Local Fluff?
The solar wind is described as a "vast stream of ions". But they are just talking about plasma, right? Nothing to see here. Okay...
Interstellar cloud is the generic name given to an accumulation of gas, plasma and dust in our and other galaxies. A photon cloud is science fiction? But it is derived from an observed phenomenon?
If our region of space were becoming more electrically active, who will herald the news. NASA can't even use the term plasma. Wish I could apologize for being so blonde, but all this information is scattered.

Not sure what you mean by "fluff". Electrons drift into the sun . Ions are ejected out. There is a sea of photons/energy. Yes, photons have mass. Try this.. If our solar system becomes more electrically active, you will not need some agency to tell you..!
Also, try reading through these, or use the search feature to search through them...

I am not sure what is being seen by the instruments aboard the voyagers...Maybe double layers surrounding large birkeland currents...

[reka]

"Wish I could apologize for being so blonde, but all this information is scattered."

Please do not refer to blondes as dumb, lets not go to that level. I would think that blondes are just as intellingent as other humans sporting a different hair color.
The Swedes, Germans, Norwegians, etc. are prone to being blonde and you can't say that they are particularly stupid.
From now on lets stick to facts that can be verified and not using in little insulting inuendoes.
Thank you.

I was just on GLP and found a very interesting discussion on the forum

'Re: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" *** Do You Want to Know How it ALL Ends'

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 023724/pg1

This just might be up your alley....anyway there is tons of info.

[reka]

Hi, thanks for the link to your thread. I will have to work my way through the concepts presented there.
Here is why I am posting. To me, the concept of magnetic bubbles seems like a childs view of Voyagers data. Great, I think children see the world more clearly. This mind set has me wondering as to what a photon “cloud” would look like. Are clouds not cells of water? Don’t plasma and water behave similarly? Have I wandered to far off the path? Can I get directions from the EU community? Is it agreed photons are real or are they dreamed up along with math equations?

Of course I will be chastised for bringing this up but, I remember there were experiments done many years ago trying to prove there was water that could be cooled to below 32F and still stay liquid. It was called POLYWATER. From what I remember the scientist debunked it's existence. I also remember seeing a picture of the chemical analysis showing a string of hexagonal shaped molecules. Maybe that is why snowflakes are hexagonal?
Again BUT, what if this water DOES exist but only in space. AND maybe this water is the plasma. AND maybe this is actually the CLOUDS in space.

[goldentree]

Clouds, bubbles, cells perhaps what is being observed is the dissolution of matter. I think this myth is describing something quite beautiful.
Most ancient images of the Triple Goddess do not include an old woman. "Crone" comes from Greek cronos, meaning time. Thus the significance of "Crone" is identical to that of Kali, which comes from Sanskrit kala, also meaning time. The Dark Mother, the third (or first) Person of the Trinity is often seen, from the human perspective, as Time the Destroyer.
It is She who in-breathes all the worlds at the end of time, just as it is She who out-breathes them at time's beginning. She is beyond time and space and the whole of manifestation. She is called "dark" because we, as mortal, time- and space-bound creatures cannot really conceive of Her. The Mother of the Universe descends into Her Creation to restore harmony, and even evil and disharmony are re-absorbed into Her Godhead, just as, in the end, through Her Grace, all beings shall be saved, even to the last blade of grass (Quan Yin).
Just as, in Buddhism, Nirvana is confused with extinction (and from the mortal perspective is extinction), and yet is in fact the final bliss and liberation, so the "destruction of the world" is also its redemption; In the in-breathing of the Dark Mother the Great Wheel of Creation comes full circle.

[Goldminer]

Here is why I am posting. To me, the concept of magnetic bubbles seems like a childs view of Voyagers data. Great, I think children see the world more clearly. This mind set has me wondering as to what a photon “cloud” would look like. Are clouds not cells of water? Don’t plasma and water behave similarly? Have I wandered to far off the path? Can I get directions from the EU community? Is it agreed photons are real or are they dreamed up along with math equations?

"Photons" always travel away from their source in a straight line. What you would see of a "Photon Cloud" is only those "Photons" that were aimed directly at you. What they would reveal to you is what the source of them looks like!

As to your question: "Is it agreed photons are real or are they dreamed up along with math equations?"

0. There are no "dumb questions," only dumb answers.

1. "Agreed" is not science, it is only opinion.

2. Re: "Are photons real?" see:Eric Reiter's experiments and Bill Beaty's article. I believe "Photons" are an artifact since they have never been seen. All we really "see" is the reaction of matter.

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[reka]

Hi, thanks for the link to your thread. I will have to work my way through the concepts presented there.
Here is why I am posting. To me, the concept of magnetic bubbles seems like a childs view of Voyagers data. Great, I think children see the world more clearly. This mind set has me wondering as to what a photon “cloud” would look like. Are clouds not cells of water? Don’t plasma and water behave similarly? Have I wandered to far off the path? Can I get directions from the EU community? Is it agreed photons are real or are they dreamed up along with math equations?

Of course I will be chastised for bringing this up but, I remember there were experiments done many years ago trying to prove there was water that could be cooled to below 32F and still stay liquid. It was called POLYWATER. From what I remember the scientist debunked it's existence. I also remember seeing a picture of the chemical analysis showing a string of hexagonal shaped molecules. Maybe that is why snowflakes are hexagonal?
Again BUT, what if this water DOES exist but only in space. AND maybe this water is the plasma. AND maybe this is actually the CLOUDS in space.

Apparently it is called 'structured' water today. Just found this interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRh38KfT8pw

by Dr. Gerald Pollack

[goldentree]

Thanks for the link. So for any of you who may be familiar with Dr Pollacks work, he presents numerous questions in this lecture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7jKL2-B ... _embedded#!
I am curious, could someone please share any EU related insights?

[seasmith]

goldentree,


Dr Pollack's video is discussed a bit here:


viewtopic.php?f=4&t=585&start=255

[ETSubmariner]

goldentree,
Dr Pollack's video is discussed a bit here:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=585&start=255

Yeah, I introduced the Thunderbolts folks to Dr. Pollack, and they got together at the NPA conference this year. I had the pleasure of inviting the Professor to our school to present on water this week, and the packed house quite loved his ideas. He said also that he very much enjoyed visiting with the Thunderbolts and NPA folks, and I prompted him to continue connecting with them! I don't think he needed much push.