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My question to Dave Thomson on some information provided by StevenO and my own attempts to really understand these issues for so long.
StevenO on Tesla waves vs hz waves.
StevenO on tesla waves vs hz waves
As Lord Kelvin already found out, both Hertzian and Tesla waves are valid solutions of the Maxwell equations. Tesla's transmitters can be more adequately described by electrical dipoles with varying potential and Hertzian transmitters as magnetic dipoles with varying current.
StevenO
My question to Dave.
My reply from Dave in the contex of APM.So I have a question?
Dave:
Is that correct? I would imagine it is, but I need a mental picture, still lacking some synesthesia on this item.
I am a simple guy, who is just starting to get all this stuff after 10 years as electronic technician.
I have a simple question, something I never really had a mental picture of dispite oscilliscope experiments with these basic components in the college lab and with troubleshooting in the industry. How does voltage and current have 90 degree phase shift in a Capacitor or Inductor? What is the simple definition of voltage and current in APM, not as an equation, but as a mental picture for myself. How does the "pressure" concept of voltage and "water" as current work for this mental picture if at all?
Dean Ward
Well that explains a ton of things for me. Structural relationships of the sphere vs the toroid vs the spiral coil. That was pure genius.Hi Dean,
As Lord Kelvin already found out, both Hertzian and Tesla waves are valid solutions of the Maxwell equations. Tesla's transmitters can be more adequately described by electrical dipoles with varying potential and Hertzian transmitters as magnetic dipoles with varying current.
I cannot agree that Tesla's magnifier could be described as electric dipoles with varying potential. To begin with, all of the ions in the signal propagated through the Earth have the same negative charge. There are no negative-positive pole alignments in these ions. The Tesla magnifier works specifically through acoustics. Instead of inertial collisions among molecules, Tesla waves transmitted through electrostatic collisions among negative ions. Thus, Tesla waves are propagated through modulation of charge density. The potential can remain constant, or change, it doesn't matter.
Note that the Tesla oscillator is not the same thing as the Tesla wave propagation going through the Earth. These are two completely different, yet coupled, systems. The Tesla oscillator uses the electrical impact of the up and down moving electrons to electrostatically "ring" the Earth like a large bell. The up and down movement of the electrons is driven by Hertzian type action. The transmission of varying charge density through the Earth is a secondary effect of the Tesla transmitter and is completely mechanical in nature even though it is utilizing the electrostatic forces between ions as a medium.
Hertzian waves propagate as an alternation between inductance-capacitance (Aether view) and current-potential (physical view).
> I am a simple guy, who is just starting to get all this stuff after 10 years as electronic technician.
I have a simple question, something I never really had a mental picture of dispite oscilliscope experiments with these basic components in the college lab and with troubleshooting in the industry. How does voltage and current have 90 degree phase shift in a Capacitor or Inductor? What is the simple definition of voltage and current in APM, not as an equation, but as a mental picture for myself. How does the "pressure" concept of voltage and "water" as current work for this mental picture if at all?
The current and potential changes are illustrated in a Tesla coil. The electrons bounce up and down the coil during operation. When the electrons are furthest from the ground connection and congregated on the top load, they are in potential mode. When the electrons are closest to ground they are in current mode. Electrons have two types of charges, the electrostatic charge and the electromagnetic charge. When the electrons are stacked vertically, they produce potential. When the electrons are stacked horizontally, they produce current. The reason why thick conductors are needed for high current applications is because the electrons need room to be stacked side by side. The reason why thin conductors work well for high potentials is because the electrons are being stacked head to toe in the direction of the conductor's length.
Potential and current are conditions of the two types of charges. The dominant aspect of charge is determined by the geometry of the system in which the electrons move. Electrostatic charge is spherical and thus fits most comfortably on a spherical conductor. Electromagnetic charge is toroidal, and thus fits most comfortably on a toroid. High potential generators tend to use spherical toploads. Tesla coils that want to produce long streamers from the top use toroidal top loads, which tends to stack electrons horizontally and add current to the electrical streamers. The current component of the streamer manifests as a thick white spark. The potential component of the streamer manifests as a thin purple spark.
The combination flat spiral-tall solenoid coils Tesla built (and which I replicated) allow for the greatest amount of current and potential to remain in the system at a given time. This means the geometry of a combination coil can be perfected to maximize the amount of power stored in a particular length of wire. The ideal geometry would produce a coil that is flared at the bottom and tapering to a point at the top, like a trumpet standing on its horn. This geometry would allow the electrons to spread out near the ground terminal and stack at the top terminal. This trumpet geometry would also produce the least amount of impedance in the system.
Dave