Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby davevoce » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:27 am

D_Archer wrote:
davevoce wrote:[And of course because this object is so fundamental to our understanding of the solar system creation then I thought there might be the possibility of that idea being confounded.


Actually such objects really tell us nothing about the "creation of the solar system", whatever that is, the solar system was not "created" as a whole. Systems of stars/planets are assembled via capture events. Higher charged objects capture lower charged objects. The small rocks we see 'floating' about are planetary debris, it is fun to check them out , and i am excited about space mining, so it is good to research them, and maybe disprove some theories....but nebular theory does not need more disproving, it is like beating a dead horse. And EU has been saying the same thing for many many years now... i guess it is already mainstream, since NASA started modeling electric asteroids...
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But this thread is about predictions right...

i predict a small atmosphere.

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Thanks for that, would a small atmosphere be completely impossible with the mainstream theory?
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Metryq » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:23 am

davevoce wrote:Thanks for that, would a small atmosphere be completely impossible with the mainstream theory?


I got into an argument with someone on another forum about atmospheres. He maintained that gravity is what holds an atmosphere down. Then I pointed out that Venus and Titan have lower surface accelerations than Earth, yet both have denser atmospheres—one much denser. He didn't have an answer for that, so I "innocently" suggested that he might be right, but it might suggest that both Titan and Venus are younger bodies.

The sputtering and incoherence were almost audible over the Web. So the guy whipped out the old "underground reservoir" argument. Everything inexplicable from the mainstream has a hidden or undetectable source—dark matter, atmospheres that should have dissipated or changed composition if truly 4.5 billion or so years old, things like that.

So yes, an atmosphere on Ultima Thule would spark some of the silliest ad hoc theories.
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Cargo » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:43 pm

Don't forget, they were Surprised about the 'atmosphere' around every body we've visited so far. From arc discharges, to too much 'gravity', plasma volcanoes, and explosive electric(plasma) environments. If a body exists, in the plasma of space, it holds enough mass to not be discharged into nothing. From either the vast vacuum, or the constant ionic bombardment of it's current environment.

This rock is no different.
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Maol » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:55 pm

You don't need to be a rock star to figure the reason for the peanut shape.

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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby allynh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:57 pm

The NOVA episode is now available of YouTube for people who can't view the PBS page.

Pluto and Beyond - NOVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmNzj3Bro_Y

Watch the episode, and be amazed at how trapped they are in the myths of the "Origin" of the Solar System.
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Robertus Maximus » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:42 am

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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Webbman » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:23 am

Maol wrote:You don't need to be a rock star to figure the reason for the peanut shape.

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a planet has the same N-S configuration but has a slight bulge in the center which is opposite of your pic. There are no peanut shaped planets.

i do think your right but some process has been altered like how it spins or where its spinning, or perhaps it doesnt spin or spins erratically which could account for the opposite effect like in your magnet pic compared to a planet.
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Cargo » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:10 pm

Today they released a new 10-frame video of the Thule. And now proclaim complete dismay that they think now, it's pancaked shaped. We have been looking at the oblique flat side.
God knows what the simulation artists for a snow flake bump joining are going to do now.

Secondly, the behavior of the background is very interesting. I believe this is the first time I've seen Stars and other fast movers like this. I wonder what the 'camera' parameters were. Topic for a different thread I suppose. ;p
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby D_Archer » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:47 am

Cargo wrote:Today they released a new 10-frame video of the Thule. And now proclaim complete dismay that they think now, it's pancaked shaped. We have been looking at the oblique flat side.
God knows what the simulation artists for a snow flake bump joining are going to do now.


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Image for reference.

This is just a guess i think, better wait for the real pictures, it could change again....

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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby allynh » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:27 am

It was during the final days of the second decade of the 21st Century, that man encountered the one object guaranteed to burn their brain. Ultima Thule! <----{Insert Mad Scientist Laugh} HA!

Ultima Thule: snowman-shaped space rock is actually 'flat like a pancake'
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -a-pancake
New photos give fresh perspective on the cosmic body and raise questions about how it was formed

Associated PressMon 11 Feb 2019 21.41 EST
The faraway space snowman visited by Nasa last month has a surprisingly flat — not round — behind.

New photos from the New Horizons spacecraft offer a new perspective on the small cosmic body 4bn miles (6.4bn km) away. The two-lobed object, nicknamed Ultima Thule, is actually flatter on the backside than originally thought, according to scientists.

Pictures released late last week – taken shortly after closest approach on New Year’s Day – provide an outline of the side not illuminated by the sun.

"We’ve never seen something like this orbiting the sun"

When viewed from the front, Ultima Thule still resembles a two-ball snowman. But from the side , the snowman looks squashed, sort of like a lemon and pie stuck together, end to end.

“Seeing more data has significantly changed our view,” Southwest Research Institute’s Alan Stern, the lead scientist, said in a statement. “It would be closer to reality to say Ultima Thule’s shape is flatter, like a pancake. But more importantly, the new images are creating scientific puzzles about how such an object could even be formed. We’ve never seen something like this orbiting the sun.”

Project scientist Hal Weaver of Johns Hopkins University, home to New Horizons flight control centre, said the finding should spark new theories on how such primitive objects formed early in the solar system.

Ultima Thule – considered a contact binary – is the most distant world ever explored. New Horizons zipped past it at high speed, after becoming the first visitor to Pluto in 2015. Mission managers hope to target an even more distant celestial object in this so-called Kuiper Belt, on the frozen fringes of the solar system, if the spacecraft remains healthy.

New Horizons is already 32m miles (52m kilometers) beyond Ultima Thule. It will take another one and a half years to beam back all the flyby data.

NASA is probably regretting their choice of target. Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Brigit Bara » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:06 pm

New photos from the New Horizons spacecraft offer a new perspective on the small cosmic body 4bn miles (6.4bn km) away. The two-lobed object, nicknamed Ultima Thule, is actually flatter on the backside than originally thought, according to scientists....It will take another one and a half years to beam back all the flyby data.


Now we have to wait a year and a half before this cryptic statement and nutty computer simulation is cleared up!

In the meantime:

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It certainly has the rounded neck for a double sphere, and there is a lot of deep shadow on the larger shape, on one side. The small craters in neat rows in the shadows, which Wal Thronhill pointed out, are very clean, and another set of craters form a chain. "Crater chains are electrical. There is no other explanation for them."

It looks like it is sandstone, to me! I searched yesterday for the chemical composition, but perhaps gave up to soon. This could be one of the biggest headaches in N a s a's history. allynh is right (:

ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbKzNkE9NQM
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Webbman » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:25 pm

its clearly the bust of a cyclops. :lol:
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Re: Ultima Thule 'Snowman' predictions

Unread postby Brigit Bara » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:17 pm

The engineers did their job so well, we can even see a faint green color near the large crater.
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