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remelic
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by remelic » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:09 pm
NASA is releasing the first images and sounds of an electrical connection between Saturn and one of its moons. The data collected by the agency's Cassini spacecraft enable scientists to improve their understanding of the complex web of interaction between the planet and its numerous moons. The results of the data analysis are published in the journals Nature and Geophysical Research Letters.
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by Osmosis » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:57 pm
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by Solar » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:29 am
Scientists previously theorized an electrical circuit should exist at Saturn. After analyzing data that Cassini collected in 2008, scientists saw a glowing patch of ultraviolet light emissions near Saturn's north pole that marked the presence of a circuit, even though the moon is 150,000 miles (240,000 kilometers) away from the planet.
Nice. Reminds me of reports from the Voyager flybys of Jupiter 1979:
An electric current of 5 million amperes was detected in the flux tube that flows between Jupiter and Io, five times stronger than predicted. Voyager did not fly through the flux tube, as planned, since the stronger current had twisted the tube 7,000 kilometers (4,300 miles) from the predicted location.
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Now there is something that has always made me curious about some these planetary electrodynamic interactions. Both Enceladus and Io in the electrodynamic interactions with the major planets of their systems also present plasma torī. Enceladus has the appearance of a shrivelled grape and Io looks to be pulverized. It basically seems that Saturn-Enceladus and/or Jupiter-Io electric dynamic is either 'building worlds', or 'absorbing them.'
At any rate, here is a short electrical summary of
Jupiter Io for some comparitive consistancy. One thing is for sure. The electric model completely destroys by an order of magnitude the 'predictative ability' of the gravity only heat production from so called "tidal interactions" still lingering as recently as March 2008 in:
[url=http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-cassini-enceladus-powerhouse.html]Cassini finds Enceladus is a [Electrical]powerhouse
That article goes to show the disparity that can result from that kind of thinking when more
in situ electrodynamic evidence comes screaming through the front door. ItThe article also showcases exactly the kind of thing that Alfven warned about. There are no 'isolated bodies' in the entire solar system!! The contrast is also why I do not give credance to the idea of random 'rogue' planets just haphazardly wafting about.
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by hertz » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:43 am
nasa's a huge bureaucracy, and as with all such organizations the left hand often doesn't know what the right hand is doing (which can work to your advantage if you know how to stay under the radar)...for example, does anyone else see the irony of using ion propulsion technology to get out and look at something, but then not being able to use the underlying concept of that technology to help explain what you're looking at?
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/about/fs21grc.html
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by Solar » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:33 am
hertz wrote:nasa's a huge bureaucracy, and as with all such organizations the left hand often doesn't know what the right hand is doing (which can work to your advantage if you know how to stay under the radar)...for example, does anyone else see the irony of using ion propulsion technology to get out and look at something, but then not being able to use the underlying concept of that technology to help explain what you're looking at?
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/about/fs21grc.html
Nice one again Hertz!
Agreed. The Ion Thruster group are amongst those Engineers that Don Scott refers to who extend an open invitation to 'knock on the door', or simply walk, 'across the hall' because 'we have something to show you that might be applicable to what you're looking at in through your telescopes.'
The 'disconnect' still amazes me.
"Our laws of force tend to be applied in the Newtonian sense in that for every action there is an equal reaction, and yet, in the real world, where many-body gravitational effects or electrodynamic actions prevail, we do not have every action paired with an equal reaction." — Harold Aspden
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by hertz » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:13 am
maybe if they all had lunch together once in awhile instead of fighting over budgets all the time someone from the ion project could have told them that this is one of the best shots ever of a z-pinch*
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/opo9738a/
*did you know that willard harrison bennett also invented the radio mass spectrometer, which was the only space instrument used by the Russians and credited to an American inventor in their own Russian-language publications
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Osmosis
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by hertz » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:36 am
it is embarrassing, and worse, may prove costly...i'm reminded of the swiss, who having discovered the quartz watch, passed on it...NASA has done an amazing amount of truly great work over the years and i'd hate to see them miss out on this one, (particularly since they're providing the mass of data that's proving EU theory) but...
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by Goldminer » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:34 pm
hertz wrote:It is embarrassing, and worse, may prove costly . . . I'm reminded of the Swiss, who having discovered the quartz watch, passed on it . . . NASA has done an amazing amount of truly great work over the years and I'd hate to see them miss out on this one, (particularly since they're providing the mass of data that's proving EU theory) but...
may prove costly?
All ready proven costly!
I sense a disturbance in the farce.
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by hertz » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:35 am
too true goldminer, too true
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by Sparky » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:50 am
Osmosis wrote:They can't let go of "magnetic field lines" -
Ok NASA-we see double layers and a Z-Pinch-you see "jet engines".
lol...you draw funny word pictures...
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by omni-tom » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:42 pm
Since Neptune's moon Triton has nitrogen geysers erupting around it's south pole, somewhat akin to Enceladus as well as Io, should we expect an electrical connection there as well?
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by jjohnson » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:52 pm
yes.
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by MGmirkin » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:17 am
omni-tom wrote:Since Neptune's moon Triton has nitrogen geysers erupting around it's south pole, somewhat akin to Enceladus as well as Io, should we expect an electrical connection there as well?
Got a cite on that? News article, etc? I'd be interested to see exactly what they've got so far. Wouldn't be entirely surprised. Guess I'll just put it that way.
Did call the Saturn-Enceladus connection, though!
Not that it was particularly a tough call, considering the Io-Jupiter connection. One assumes the other moons in the Jupiter system with known auroral footprints are also in similar connections to that planet... Just saying.
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by mharratsc » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:09 pm
Umm, am I the only one who anticipates seeing these physical characteristics between all moons and their parent planets? o.O
If we've seen it so far with Jupiter and Saturn, isn't it then logical to assume that it is a characteristic of planets with moons?? o.O
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