A New Phenomena Observed at the Sun: Electric Star

[Anaconda]

A new phenomena has been observed at the Sun.

Could this be a dramatic confirmation of the Electric Star hypothesis?

Within the last week, an as yet unexplained physical phenomena has been observed at the Sun via the SOHO satellite.

As described by a website:

Plasma Tubes Connect Dark Spherical Body Too Our Sun

...The real show however can be seen by going to the SOHO website and running the dates 08-03-2012 to 12-03-2012 into the various camera feeds available. The best for this purpose is EIT-171, though I suggest you run the dates on all feeds. Just what exactly it is that has been discovered by two Youtube channel hosts 'Sunsflare' and 'MrMBB333' remains to be concluded, however what we see with our eyes is enough to be mind blowing. The pictures below with embedded links to original sources show us several compelling details. Then the video from Sunsflare gives us an increased level of clarity of the 'object'...

http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/201 ... sible.html

(On the link, skip the pole-shift discussion and concentrate on the unexplained solar phenomena discussion and exhibits.)

A Youtube video with a narrative discusses this phenomena, dated March 11, 2012:

Huge Sphere in Sun's Corona!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... MHb5I&NR=1

Then there is a follow up Youtube video with a close up of the phenomena (with dramatic music):

Update - Unidentified Object SUN! March 12, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev8JGqDO8nk

Further discussion:

This first image shows us that what appears to be an enormous black sphere is connected to the Sun by a number of plasma tubes. If you go through the different video source option over at SOHO you find that this 'plasma object' is there from at least 09-03-12 and seemingly comes around from the other side of the sun. There are at least 4 plasma tubes 'feeding' it on 10-03-12, which makes sense as plasma tubes tend to manifest in pairs, then we find that the tubes seem to merge into just one on 11-03-12 though this may just be our viewing angle.

Further, after the phenomena concludes (the darkened spherical area pulls away from the solar corona and the plasma filament connecting the "sphere" to the Sun's surface dissipates or breaks) a large energy release ejects from the Sun's surface:

Then on 12-03-2012 an enormous energy event, seemingly a massive CME, blasts out from that precise region we are monitoring, and the object and tube both vanish from the location. Whatever it is, it then 'seems' to have been thrown away from the sun as part of the stellar eruption, appearing as the white mass with twisting tendrils shooting out before it. Note too the loop of energy ahead of it rather like some kind of stargate vortex opening.

(Pardon me for posting so much from Global Rumblings, but I want to give credit where credit is due.)

Now, with the above observational foundation I would like to propose the hypothesis that this phenomena is consistent with and is a confirmation of the Electric Star hypothesis.

(Do any readers want to claim this phenomena is just a visual artifact of the observing instrument or is not a newly observed solar phenomena, but, rather, is simply a phenomena that has been observed & measured previously?)

The darkened sphere is caused by cold (cold represents low energy) incoming electrons, which have built up into a concentration of cold, low energy electrons. The plasma filament connecting the darkened spherical area is the electrons returning into the Sun's surface, evidenced by the filament also being dark against the Sun's surface (hot electrons would not produce a dark filament).

Low energy electrons would be attracted to the positive surface of the Sun. Upon this physical structure forming, the resultant electromagnetic relationships would cause the formation of a local Reverse Double Layer.

What do I mean by a Reverse Double Layer? Normally, the Double Layer process and structure in the Corona would be a high energy plasma relationship with the Sun's surface, as the Corona is high energy in relationship to the Sun's surface, the Photoshere, it being lower energy (Corona, millions of degrees Celsius, opposed to the Photosphere, thousands of degrees Celsius). But in a Reverse Double Layer, the energy relationships are reversed with the low energy being in the Corona and the high energy being in the Photosphere.

How does a low energy area within the Corona stay maintained?

This is possible because a plasma environment is an electromagnetic environment not just a Browning, radom energy environment.

Plasma forms "cells" that are actively protected or insulated from other plasma "cells" -- in this case, the larger Coronal plasma "cell".

Think "ball" lightning. Thus, a low energy pocket, or "ball", or 'sphere', in the plasma could conceivably be insulated from the overall high energy electromagnetic environment of the Corona.

So, the filament between the darkened sphere and the surface of the Sun is like a lightning bolt between a cloud and the ground on Earth, as a possible analogy -- the "lightning bolt" can maintain continuity and flow for a longer time interval because the medium in the Sun's "atmosphere" has much less resistence than the medium in Earth's atmosphere.

As a lightning bolt on Earth is an example of electrons flowing into the Earth (with the exceptions of 'positive' lightning bolts and lightning coming up from the ground), so, here, is an example of low energy electrons flowing into the surface of the Sun.

And, according to my hypothesis, these cold electrons are being introduced or incoming from the virtural cathode of the Heliosphere. Initially, these "cold" electrons upon emerging out of the Heliosphere into the area between the Heliosphere and the Sun are diffused, but with the weak radial electric field within the Heliosphere (a proposition supported by the Electric Universe Theory) the "cold" electrons are drawn toward the 'anode' of the Sun, and in the closing area, these "cold" electrons begin to concentrate, their highest concentration being closest to the Sun, this allows these "cold" electrons to form into a coherent structure than impinges on the Sun's Corona.

What about the high energy release upon the dissipation or break in the filament and the darkened sphere pulling away from the surface of the Sun?

If my hypothesis is correct, that there is a Reverse Double Layer, upon the disruption of that energy transfer, known as current disruption, per general Double Layer properties, all the electromagnetic energy of the circuit will flow into the region of the current disruption, this, in turn, causes an energy reaction at the Sun's surface, per Newton, each action will have a reaction.

Observe the image at the Global Rumblings website of the energy release upon disruption of the dark filament, akin to a CME, but it is much less organized than a CME: "...appearing as the white mass with twisting tendrils shooting out before it." So, while it is an energy release, I suggest it is not the same as a classical CME, but more like a "cousin" of a CME.

Well, there is my hypothesis for the above phenomena, which is consistent with the Electric Star hypothesis.

Please feel free to disagree (or agree) and discuss your own interpretation of the phenomena.

WHATEVER it is

[mharratsc]

One of the comments on the videos was that the object was massive, and appeared stationary, not revolving orbitally around the Sun (paraphrased- the comment was in Russian and Google did a horrid job translating.)

Additionally, after the sphere/void accelerated away, some of the plasma that had been whirling in the Birkeland current that had been feeding it ceased to revolve and 'splashed' back onto the Surface of the Sun - it was a very energetic event, no question about it.

Very puzzling... I sure hope Steve, Wal, or Prof. Scott post something on this...

[Anaconda]

mharratsc,

I appreciate your response. If this is a distinct physical phenomena different from those previously observed about the Sun because newly available technology allows more detailed and higher resulution observation & measurement, it needs interpretation & analysis, particularly from an Electric Universe perspective.

Why is an analysis & interpretation from an Electric Universe perspective particularly important?

Because on the face of it, this physical phenomena is not readily explainable by the conventional dogma of a nuclear furnace at the center of the Sun. How does a "cool" filament (perhaps multiple filaments twisting around each other) of plasma form between the Photosphere and an apparently dark spherical void in the Corona according to the conventional model?

This apparently new phenomena is important because it directly challenges the conventional model and when this phenomena is considered in light of all the other observations that contradict the conventional nuclear furnace model, its possibly the straw that finally breaks the camel's back

One of the comments on the videos was that the object was massive, and appeared stationary, not revolving orbitally around the Sun (paraphrased- the comment was in Russian and Google did a horrid job translating.)

I disagree with the interpretation that the spherical darkness or void remained stationary while the Sun rotated. This phenomena was observed in the lower left lim of the Sun. It likely either rotated in sinc with the Sun's rotation or formed in that location above the Photosphere, but didn't persist long enough to be readily observed rotating in sinc with the Sun's rotation.

mharratsc, I agree the dark spherical void is "massive", encompassing a huge volume and diameter.

What would be the physical explanation for how the phenomena stayed in one location while the Sun rotated underneath it?

Perhaps additional data can clear up this issue -- that is, if the conventional heliophysicists will even acknowledge the observation of this phenomena Of course, that is another reason for Electric Universe theorists to analyse & interpret the phenomena because it will put pressure on conventional heliophysicists to deal with it, which if, as I suspect, falsifies their model, they may be tempted to ignore it altogether as some sort of "internet" anomaly. (Which again raises the basic question, is it a real physical phenomena different than those already observed before?)

If the conventional heliophysicists don't acknowledge the phenomena, does that make it any less real? And, what does it say about conventional heliophysicists if they don't acknowledge it?

Additionally, after the sphere/void accelerated away, some of the plasma that had been whirling in the Birkeland current that had been feeding it ceased to revolve and 'splashed' back onto the Surface of the Sun - it was a very energetic event, no question about it.

I don't agree the plasma in the Birkeland current (I agree the plasma filament is a Birkeland current) "ceased to revolve" when the plasma filament was disrupted. The "splash back" event was rapid so little time elapsed to observe rotation underneath it.

But, again, perhaps higher resolution data can clarify the issue of whether the phenomena rotated in sinc with the Sun's surface.

Very puzzling... I sure hope Steve, Wal, or Prof. Scott post something on this...

I agree that would be nice, but not essential because Electric Universe analysis & interpretation is a science, its physical relationships are objective & universal open to anybody who studies it.

It does not require "gurus" to impart wisdom that only the few are able to know and then pass on to the many -- and that's a good thing -- that's what makes it a science

[Sparky]

Only other possible electrical event that i can think of to consider is a fissioning event...

Is the sphere now gone? No trace?

[stickwhistler]

I believe that something very similar to the ' distinct physical phenomena different from those previously observed' can be seen via the below:

visit http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/data/aiahmi/dayform.php
Click the date box and then todays date - 14th
then click AIA 094 green
then click movie
then click resolution 1024
then click submit (let it load - a few seconds), watch at about 2 O'clock position - which is sunspot 1429.

If you're quick, and press PrtSc, you can get a screen print of the flare,
which I think is quite beautiful,
and looks very like the pillar and cup/ball/object that is being talked about.

I suspect it is 'just another flare' but seen and noticed by more people
because of the internet, better facilities (SDO etc) and interest in solar thingies.

Edited to add the image from above operation.

[Lloyd]

* Here's an image with the object Anaconda was discussing in the lower left:
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Massive-Sun-Sphere-March-11-2012.png

Coronal Cavity - Not New
* I did a little checking and found this website explains the object as a coronal cavity, which have been known at least since 1997, it seems.
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012/03/massive-black-sphere-hovering-near-sun-debate-videos/

Thanks to Mick at the Metabunk.org website we got an expert from NASA answer: the mysterious dark sphere is “a transitory cavity in the solar plasma field, known as a coronal prominence cavity, or polar crown cavity”

* Here are images from that site:
Date unknown:
2008: http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//skitch/cavity-20120313-103129.jpg
1997:
* These are from elsewhere:
http://www.nar.ucar.edu/2008/ESSL/catalog/hao/gibson.php
http://www.nar.ucar.edu/2008/ESSL/catalog/hao/images/gibson1_sm.jpg
https://nar.ucar.edu/2010/lar/hao/solar-modeling
https://nar.ucar.edu/sites/default/files/hao/CoronalProminence.gif

[Sparky]

Thanks for the images , guys!!!

Now! What would cause a "cavity"?,,

Is there increased radiation in another part of spectrum within the cavity?

thanks

[Anaconda]

Lloyd,

Thank you very much for the information and your time in presenting it in a readily available format (I always appreciate images directly on the board -- the images leap off the page, as it were ).

Also, thank you for correctly pointing out that the phenomena is not a newly observed phenomena.

That is the genius of the collaboration & cooperation that a scientific forum can be

I happily stand corrected

Thanks, again, Lloyd for the additional material.

So, it's “a transitory cavity in the solar plasma field, known as a coronal prominence cavity, or polar crown cavity”.

Sparky,

Now! What would cause a "cavity"?,,

That is the question isn't it

I would add, the new images appear of a higher resolution than the previous images. Perhaps, in the newest image I presented to open the board, not only is the image of a higher resolution because of more advanced technology, but, also, the physical phenomena, coronal prominence cavity, appears to be of unusual intensity, where its physical properties are well formed & defined.

One difference I note between the images Lloyd presented and the newest images is in the newest image there is a plasma filament, aka Birkeland current, which is very well defined, whereas, in Lloyd's imgages, the plasma between the 'cavity' and the surface doesn't appear as a strong connecting 'filament', but is actually called "barbs".

At this point, given my opening hyperbole I'll pause... Hoping others will contribute.

(Except I will link to the Thunderbolts Picture of the Day, The Dark of the Sun, March 15, 2012, by Stephen Smith)

A thanks is due to the Thunderbolts crew for the timely POD

Dark mode plasma phenomena exist on the Sun.
[...]
In the electric Sun hypothesis, the Sun is a glowing anode, or positively charged “electrode.” The cathode is an invisible “virtual cathode,” called the heliosphere. The heliosphere is at the farthest limit of the Sun’s coronal discharge, billions of kilometers from its surface, where a “double layer” isolates the Sun’s plasma cell from the galactic plasma that surrounds it. Galactic plasma is otherwise called the Interstellar Medium (ISM).

Electric forces occurring within the double charge layer above the Sun’s surface are responsible for the incredibly active plasma phenomena that we see. Since Electric Universe theory assumes that celestial bodies interact through conductive plasma and are connected by circuits, the Sun is also assumed to be electrically connected with the galaxy. The Sun can be thought of as an electrically charged object seeking equilibrium with its environment. However, it is not stable. The charges flowing into and out of the Sun can sometimes increase to the point where it releases plasma discharges called solar flares.[...]

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/03 ... the-sun-2/

[Sparky]

Are all images showing the "cavity" on an edge of the sun?

Could we be looking down a plasma gun?

Or a sectional view of a torus.

[Anaconda]

Sparky,

Whether all images are showing the phenomena "on the edge of the Sun", I'll let the readers make that determination.

As for the images I presented in my opening post, the phenomena is in the left lower limb of the Sun and it does appear, in my opinion, a relatively side-angle view, not looking down the "barrel" or axial angle of a plasma gun.

Whether it is a "sectional view of a torus", I'm not sure, one way or the other. Perhaps you could give further explanation what you mean.

[nick c]

The only reason I am bringing this up is because I have not seen that word "plasmoid" mentioned in this thread, but I think that is what we are looking at here. (If someone mentioned "plasmoid" and I missed it, please excuse the oversight.) The connection is presumably a birkeland current.

Bostick coined the word plasmoid for "plasma magnetic entity" in 1958.
Possible Hydromagnetic Simulation of Cosmical Phenomena in the Laboratory

[Anaconda]

nick c,

Bingo

The dark spherical void could easily be a plasmoid in 'dark mode'. Plasmoids can take varied forms, as the definition is a flexible term: "plasma-magnetic entity".

Thanks, nick.

So, the next question would be (assuming nick's suggestion is right and I think it is) what is the specific structure of this plasmoid? And, how does this plasmoid form in the Corona? And, what make-up of electrons & ions (percentage of electrons versus ions) constitutes this plasmoid? What energy level do these electrons & ions have? Where do these electrons & ions originate from (either from the Sun or from the interplanetary medium, possibly even the Heliosphere)? And, how does this plasmoid interact with its plasma environment in the Corona and, via the Birkeland current, how does this plasmoid interact with the Sun's surface?

A nice set of questions.

[Lloyd]

Inside a Filament/Prominence
* Nick, a mutual friend pointed out this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82l46fpd-ic&feature=related, which explains that the cavity is a view down the throat of a solar filament/prominence. NASA called it a coronal cavity, but didn't explain that it's part of a solar filament/prominence. Can a plasmoid be a prominence? I was thinking plasmoids are fairly spherical, but I'm not certain. The video explains it pretty well. What looks like a dark tether to the cavity is apparently the prominence. The video author seems to say that a CME (coronal mass ejection) came up when the prominence rose up.

[nick c]

Lloyd,
Yes, nice video, I saw that earlier today.
I was just suggesting "plasmoid" as an identifying name for the phenomenon. Plasmoid is a general term covering a variety forms of "structures" within a plasma environment, or as Bostick wrote:

The word plasmoid will be employed as a generic term for all plasma-magnetic entities.

I think that this is an example of how in a plasma environment, cells are formed. Perhaps this coronal cavity or plasmoid (?) is dark because that area is in dark mode, or at least glowing darker relative to the surrounding plasma. The twisting filaments are familiar to us as Birkeland currents, although it seems that mainstream is allergic to use of that term.

So, possibly, we have a name for it. Explaining it is another story

[Sparky]

Anaconda,

Low energy electrons would be attracted to the positive surface of the Sun. Upon this physical structure forming, the resultant electromagnetic relationships would cause the formation of a local Reverse Double Layer.------
Whether it is a "sectional view of a torus", I'm not sure, one way or the other. Perhaps you could give further explanation what you mean.------how does this plasmoid form in the Corona?

I was just throwing out ideas......have no theory of my own, and will go along with what OP suggested or the plasmoid, which i do not know how they form in earth experiments.

A 2d image, and little spectrum data makes it difficult for the experts. I would have no idea this thing appears as it does.

thanks