Structure of the Atom

[Goldminer]

Re: Magnetospheres

Postby Goldminer » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:37 am

The press release regarding the Earth's magnetosphere resulting from a toroidal electric current is very interesting. I haven't seen anything like that in the mainstream media before. It makes sense, as far as I'm concerned. If magnetic fields form around an electric current, the shape of the Earth's magnetosphere points to a toroidal electric current.

The internal dynamo paradigm relies on a solid metal core revolving in an outer core of liquid metal. I don't understand how such a set up could be stable. The liquid outer core would absorb the angular momentum of both the core and the rest of the Earth around it, which would slow the Earth's rotation gradually. Such a system would be chaotic, not stable.

Thanks for posting this.

Cheers

"As below, so above" Read about Ampere's magnetic molecule here The extra nuclear shapes of electrons in atoms and molecules are suggestive of the shapes of electrical plasmas in the cosmos. Ampere's experiments led him to propose that what we now call "electrons" are according to him, magnetic molecules. (In my mind, the shapes of the atomic "orbits" of electrons are not orbits at all; but simply the shape of the electron itself when in the vicinity of the atomic nucleus.)

For example this one of the The 3dz2 electron orbital:



Found here Notice the toroid. Some "orbitals" are simply toroids without the spheroids. Not shown is the nucleus at the center of the "orbital."

The theory on magnetism due to electrons is that the electron produces dual magnetic dipole moments due to the various "motions." Its spin and orbit each produce magnetism, as does the nucleus, which is composed of both electrons and protons. (The electrons in the nucleus are associated with protons which the theory names "neutrons")

[dusthurricane]

Tayga
I think you need to be careful with this. It's been stated many times on this forum that the flow of electrical energy is not the same as the flow of electrons

No, it is the 'EU' model which needs to be careful. Electrical current manifests as electron flow . Fact.
Electricity is by definition - the flow of electrons through a gas

Tayga
The flow of electrical energy is not the same as electron flow ????

So we still have flow in there, but it is not electrons - then why did electronics not pick up on this???
Care to explain what is flowing if not electrons ?
Sure the transistor would like to know also???
Does anyone who subscribes to the EU theory, understand electricity / electronics.
Maybe EU should have considered an alternate naming convention.

[mharratsc]

Tayga
I think you need to be careful with this. It's been stated many times on this forum that the flow of electrical energy is not the same as the flow of electrons

No, it is the 'EU' model which needs to be careful. Electrical current manifests as electron flow . Fact.
Electricity is by definition - the flow of electrons through a gas

Tayga
The flow of electrical energy is not the same as electron flow ????

So we still have flow in there, but it is not electrons - then why did electronics not pick up on this???
Care to explain what is flowing if not electrons ?
Sure the transistor would like to know also???
Does anyone who subscribes to the EU theory, understand electricity / electronics.
Maybe EU should have considered an alternate naming convention.

Your own brain defies you, Dust. The flow of current in the human body is ionic, not electronic.

[Vek]

To summarize:

Individual EU proponents have offered some personal thoughts on sub-atomic/atomic/molecular structuring, but - as pointed out by Nick - there so far has been no formalized attempt made by the EU to classify or define the microcosm in such a way.

Although you will get quite a few people who will take your query as an invitation to offer you their ideas, it seems.

It's full of stars, of course.

[tayga]

No, it is the 'EU' model which needs to be careful. Electrical current manifests as electron flow . Fact. Electricity is by definition - the flow of electrons through a gas.

Whose definition is that? Yours?

Care to explain how AC works if electricity is a flow of electrons?

[reka]

Electricity is the flow of electrons via valence bands.

I think you need to be careful with this. It's been stated many times on this forum that the flow of electrical energy is not the same as the flow of electrons. The two happen at different rates: one at c, the other much slower. For sure, there is an association between the two but they are not the same thing.

Magnetism has nothing to do with electrons moving through a conductor - it has to do with electron spin.

Spot on. A simple point which is so often overlooked. But is spin a movement, an orientation or something else?

Isn't that interesting.
Does it mean than that the electrons are spinning while they are moving in a line?
I have an elementary question. How did the electrons acquire the spin? Did they always spin? Do they spin in the coldness of space, or do they slow the colder the surrounding? How do they react in the different (7) layers of atmosphere?