Peter said: From a Veliko[v]skian view point he hypothesized many geophysical dramas . From his chosen focus the time frame 1500BC to around 650BC presents the most powerful mythological and geophysical ev[i]dence . This time frame was All due to t[h]e planets Mars, Venus, Jupiter and possibly Mercury in celestial (electro magnetic) combat. For him Saturn ( as with Hesiod) was an earlier era.
* Cardona, Talbott et al determined that Velikovsky misdated the post-Saturnian planetary clashes a thousand years too recent and much of his analyses were incorrect, despite being correct regarding the larger picture and regarding Saturn to some extent.
* See the Cardona interview at http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3824
. The 2nd post there is similar to the following, which is a revision for greater accuracy.
* The ice caps are no more than 10,000 years old, because Saturn flare-ups removed them periodically, and the last flare-up was 10,000 years ago when Saturn [with Earth, Mars etc] entered the Solar System. It's uncertain whether the Saturn System breakup 4,500 years ago also removed the ice caps, which then reformed, or whether they remained in large part.Chronological Outline of Cardona's Saturn Theory
Phase 1: Saturn System Formation:
Saturn formed in the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy as a Brown Dwarf Star;
it was alone in space [as far as we know so far] with a Circumstellar Disk, Bipolar Jets and an invisible Plasmasphere
Phase 2: Numerous Saturn Flare-up cycles
Each cycle involved:
a) a Saturn Flare-up, similar to solar flares, but much more powerful; the flare-ups resulted from Saturn's plasmasphere encountering other stellar plasmaspheres, while moving from the Sagittarius Galaxy to the Milky Way;
b) a possible Rocky Planet/Satellite Ejection [possibly forming Earth, Mars, Mercury, & other Satellites, as many as one per cycle];
c) Deposition of Saturn Flare Dust, Petroleum, Water etc on Satellite Planets, i.e. on Mars, Earth, and other Saturn moons;
d) Melting of Earth’s Temperate Zone Glaciers and Filling of Oceans;
e) a Long Quiet Interim;
f) New Saturn Disk Formation, Resumption of Saturn's Bipolar Jets & New Glacier Formation on Earth.
g) Temperate Zone Glaciation occurred, again removing most of the water from the Oceans [the Bipolar Jets, also called the Polar Column, removed some of the ocean waters.]
Phase 3: Continental Drift
without subduction, due to flare-up braking Earth's rotation and Earth's crust sliding over its Moho layer [possibly part of some Flare-up cycles, with continents moving farther apart during several flare-up cycles] and possible Earth Expansion & Contraction
Phase 4: Pre-human Saturn Flare-up cycles
[possibly forming more Saturn satellites]
Phase 5: Appearance of Humans
Phase 6: Post-human Saturn Flare-up cycles
[possibly forming Titan, etc.]
Phase 7: ~10,000 yrs ago: Saturn's Last Flare-up:
[possibly forming Venus]
One final Saturn Flare-up during the Saturn System's entry into the Solar System, which ended the prior Age of Darkness; immediately after the flare-up, the Sun, Venus, Mars and possibly some of Saturn's other smaller moons first became visible [Venus may have been ejected, or birthed, from Saturn during the flare-up; the Sun appeared at first as a small star and no other stars were visible]
Phase 8: ~10,000 - 4,500 yrs ago: Civilization:
Beginning of Human Religion & Pre-history, also called Mythology, and of Civilization, with worship and imitation of Saturn
Phase 9: ~4,500 yrs ago: Saturn System breakup:
Saturn & Jupiter clashed near the inner Asteroid Belt; Venus appeared as a comet; Venus & Mars clashed; the Moon arrived in Earth's orbit; Mars & Moon perhaps clashed; the Stars first became visible after the breakup; the Great Flood, Noah's Flood, occurred then, when Saturn's polar column to Earth was severed
Phase 10: 4,500 yrs ago to present:Post-Saturn Stabilization:
Planets settled into their present orbits; Beginning of Recorded History