Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious

What is a human being? What is life? Can science give us reliable answers to such questions? The electricity of life. The meaning of human consciousness. Are we alone? Are the traditional contests between science and religion still relevant? Does the word "spirit" still hold meaning today?

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Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious

Unread post by jimmcginn » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:31 pm

Turning us all into liars and brain-dead believers, the subconscious evolved as a means by which we maintain our ability to be reprogrammed with a new ideology. Human's are not rational but are hyper-pseudo rational, meaning that we have a deep emotional attachment to the belief in the absolute certainty of our ideological beliefs.

Human's are programmed through culture to have an ideology that comes part and parcel with an attitude to ownership of resources, especially territorial resources. This programming enabled our earliest communities to adjust to changes in level of scarcity/wealth in the context of dramatic annual shifts in level of scarcity/wealth as a result of dramatic shifts in level of rainfall in the monsoon habitat that emerged in east Africa about 7 million years ago.

Human communities were in competition with one another to maintain resources, keep migrating species from destroying their water supply and eating their garden resources, and to keep predators at bay. Failure could often result in extinction or at least the decimation of whole communities during the depths of the dry season. But these earliest hominid communities were rarely at war with one another. Instead, all communities were in a constant state of war against all other species with which they competed for often scarce resources.

Language, logic, and consciousness all emerged as part of communities overall strategy for our earliest pre-hominid ancestors to collectively achieve shifts in ideological perspective and, thereby, adjust to changes in level of scarcity/wealth in the context of dramatic annual shifts thereof, in order to maintain possession of protected territorial resources to survive the deadly dry season.

Us humans live our whole lives under the spell of a delusion that we are rational. We are capable of being logical, but logic actually evolved as a tool to achieve programming. Specifically, we use logic as a tool for story telling. And storytelling is the means by which we acheive programming and reprogramming of ideological perspective.

The currently popular Tool-using hunter/gatherer hypothesis is nonsense. Humans evolved logic and rational abilities as a means to achieve storytelling. It would take millions of years of human evolution before our ability to use logic had evolved enough sophistication that we would could start discovering the benefits of tools and tool making.

In addition to being communally territorial, our ancestors have been agricultural over the full breadth of human evolution. We have also always been warriors. Agriculture and war were the same thing. We used rocks and sticks to collectively maintain territorial resources against the constant onslaught of inmigrating species who if not stopped would destroy the community's resources that it depended on to survive the deadly dry season. The evolution of a vertical stance in the earliest years of hominid evolution was instrumental in enabling us to be better rock throwing, stick wielding, noise making pest control agriculturalist.

The mistake that everybody makes when they get involved in scientific discussions and witness the unrelenting intellectual dishonesty in others is to assume that others are not witnessing the same in themselves. We are all liars, caught in the spell of our ideological delusions. And our subconscious protects us from any realization that would break the spell.

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Re: Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious

Unread post by Webbman » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:22 pm

i disagree

we are free to change any way we wish as the creator will respect (respect is a sign of omnipotence) peoples choices no matter how poorly informed or deceived they are. Religion always wants you to worship but the creator i know isn't a low minded sociopath that would require worship. No. The creator i know wants to elevate everyone but how can you learn wisdom without pain? What do you learn when you have it easy?

any scientist who actually uses their mind in the search for truth will eventually end up with the creator which here on the mundane earth is brought to us through the story of Jesus which has nothing to do with religion. Its because of the ultimate power and inevitability of the truth.

science is more like religion now than science and you must worship it! Look who controls it..those who only care of the laws and rituals of men (being polite), and not laws of the creator. Everything they touch turns to garbage and despair because they know not the creator only the idol they built for themselves which is themselves.

Humans are evolving into devils because they have lost contact with the creator and for no other reason. Its the same reason why relativity is king, black holes appear to exist and nobody wants to hear about plasma or electricity in space.

woke doesnt mean awake. It means deceived again.


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Re: Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious

Unread post by Younger Dryas » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:20 am

The concept of subjective consciousness was developed by Julian Jaynes in The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind (1976).

Subjective consciousness involves the ability to recognize yourself as seen by others -- an "analog I" -- which is internalized and placed into the space of the imagination. This represented a new mental space based on a metaphorical displacement of the self, and had not been seen (or recorded) before about 1500 BC. The "space" suggested here is a concept predominantly defined in Indo-European languages. People in cultures based on other grammars have formed equivalent solutions.

You can look through the "eyes" of this "substitute I" or even observe yourself from afar in your mind. Biologically it involves the separation of volition and consciousness in the speech centers of the brain. "Memory" and "self-awareness" are not subjective consciousness, they are simply aspects of consciousness. All animals have memories, all animals are aware of themselves.

Some people never achieve subjective consciousness, yet they appear fully functional. Pre-subjectively-conscious people are almost completely indistinguishable from subjectively conscious people. Pre-subjectively-conscious people can learn anything, including mathematics, and certainly they can joke, have emotions, and carry on convoluted dialogues with others. However, they rely heavily on the learned admonitions of parents and authority figures ("oughts" and "shoulds") and have difficulty with novel situations. Pre-subjectively-conscious humans also do not have the ability to imagine the reflective thinking of others, that is, how others might imagine them as thinking.

I am, who I think you think I am!
"I decided to believe, as you might decide to take
an aspirin: It can't hurt, and you might get better."
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Re: Human Evolution and the Emergence of the Subconscious

Unread post by nick c » Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:59 am

The Origin of Consciousness and the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind
Like others who were so far ahead of their time, appreciation for the importance of Julian Jaynes' work is only beginning to develop.

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