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Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:54 pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: Tensegrity Structures in Biology
its important to note that the common misconception of dinosaurs collapsing under their own weight is due to incorrect structural parameters being used to consider their relationship and effectiveness against gravity. The structural model used is the one commonly taught in medical texts, beams and levers and fulcrums.

Thats really sad as beams and levers and fulcrums will never work for your bicep and a 100pd dumbbell let alone a dinosaur.

The dinosaur can stand up all by itself with no extra help from any other model then to introduce Tensegrity Engineering instead of Beams, Levers and Fulcrums. Tensegrity is the brainchild of Buckminster Fuller. It stands for Tensional Integration.
http://www.bfi.org/

Knowledge is a continuous journey, it's been said, and one of the latest stops on this journey in the search for truth in the EU is the subject of Tensegrity. Biological systems have always been modeled like the post-and-beam construction of a skyscraper, where a building must be rigid enough to withstand a heavy wind or any weight that cantilevers off its vertical structure. In comparing our bodies to rigid structures, standard post and beam Newtonian biomechanics have been used. This system of describing how our body functions have been adequate, but only to a point. According to a strict interpretation of Newtonian biomechanics, the human spine would buckle with less than the weight of the head on top of it; vertebral bodies would crush under the leverage of a fly rod held in the hand; and with each heartbeat arteries would lengthen enough to crowd the brain out of the skull.

Tensegrity refers to a system that stabilizes itself mechanically, because of the way in which tensional and compressive forces are distributed and balanced within the structure. Tensegrity structures transmit loads through tension and compression only. A giraffe with its long neck can bring its neck back up after drinking water only by the use of the tension and compression within its tissues. According to present-day biomechanics, it would require a large T1 spinous from which a cable would attach to its occiput. Tensegrity is the only answer to these structural engineering problems that nature has to face.

Once viewed as a Tensegrity Structure where the Fascia (connective tissue) is the Continual Tensional Component and the Bones are the Discontinuous Compression Component the model is perfect and quite effecient. Voila you have just completed your first Tensegrity class and learned the ability to make huge structures both biological and man made.
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm

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Scientists around the world have been studying the tensegrity model. A good beginning would be to read the article in Scientific American by Dr. Donald E. Ingber. He describes tensegrity: "A universal set of building rules seems to guide the design of organic structures - from simple carbon compounds to complex cells and tissues." Mechanical stresses on cells are known to regulate tissue growth and development, and to alter cell form and function within our tensegrity system.

http://www.childrenshospital.org/resear ... Ingber.pdf

My own journey into Tensegrity began with Ida Rolf and Structural Integration. A series of fascial therapy treatments to realign the body in gravity. Buckminster Fuller and Ida Rolf were good friends and often talked together on the importance of the fascia tensional model.

I treated high volicity impact trauma for 12 years. Tensegrity is the way to balance the body after high velocity impact. The study of high velocity impact injury is properly understood by a few therapist who practice fascial therapy which is a tensegrity model.

I was trained by the following group of people in Fascial Therapies and therefore Tensegrity Therapies and some of their story. Tom Myers and Dr. Shea are original students of Ida Rolf and Buckminster Fuller. George Roth is in colaboration with Donald Ingber.

One of my teachers is George Roth DC. Tensegrity Therapy/Matrix Repatterning
http://www.matrixrepatterning.com/

Another is Tom Myers Anatomy Trains Kinesis Myofascial Integration.
http://www.anatomytrains.com/

Dr Micheal Shea taught me Structural Integration but is now a full time Bio Cranial Therapist Teacher.
http://www.michaelsheateaching.com/

Also I received some independent teaching of Turner Cranial Therapy (he will only teach chiropractors) so I was fortunate to have been taught by a chiropractor I worked with Dr Dean Summers.
http://www.catsworkshop.com/

Visceral Therapy by Dr Micheal Shea
http://www.iahe.com/html/therapies/vm.jsp

Leon Chiatow has taught me multiple neurological muscular approaches
http://www.leonchaitow.com/

Erik Dalton taught me how to take Leon Chitatows work and rework it into a bigger model of Common Compensatory Pattern and Postural VS Movement muscle theory.
http://erikdalton.com/articles.htm
http://erikdalton.com/

Aaron Mattes has taught me Active Isolated Stretching
http://www.stretchingusa.com/

I have received all the above fascial tensegrity therapies as a patient as well as treated from this medical model. Best soft tissue therapy approch is a multisystems approach. My own synthesis of the above models is Systems Therapy and Tensional Release Therapy and Structural Alignment Therapy.

One of my teachers, Dr. Roth, uses a method of palpation that allows us to feel a softening within the body, occurring when a lesion under abnormal tension is lightly compressed. Compression of a lesioned area "dampens" the tension within the total system of the body, causing any palpated neutral area to soften. A basic tensegrity principle is that "a local force can change the shape of an entire tensegrity structure." A local force is used to evaluate and then treat the body. Tensegrity therapy tells us how to look for these sites and restore function. The symptom location of patients, as has been quoted by many authorities, is often not the location of the cause. Present-day knowledge tells us that the cause can be anywhere. Tensegrity therapy is a breakthrough approach in finding and treating the "anywhere." Its the tensional bridge that connects all things.

Here is a link to my work on the cellular components of the Tensegrity System.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... .php?t=791
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby moses » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:58 pm

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In the Saturn System theory, dinosaurs suggest that there
was once lesser gravity on Earth. This is tied with Earth
Expansion. We would be interested in your estimation of
how much gravity dinosaurs existed in. Perhaps you would
like to reply in the 'dinosaur size problem' topic:
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:59 pm

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Mo wrote:
In the Saturn System theory, dinosaurs suggest that there
was once lesser gravity on Earth. This is tied with Earth
Expansion. We would be interested in your estimation of
how much gravity dinosaurs existed in. Perhaps you would
like to reply in the 'dinosaur size problem' topic:



Sorry to interfere, but did you read that thread all the way to the end?
The size of dinosaurs is not that exceptional as compared with today or the recent past.
Combined with what Junglelord shows with the tensegrity, can explain all that needs to be explained. Where do you still see problems?
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:00 pm

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Thanks StefanR

The body is a tensegrity structure, with tension provided by a matrix of connective tissues - ligaments, muscles, blood vessels, nerves and fascia in sheets, making compartments, giving strength, integrity and pre-stress. Compression is provided by the bones and incompressible fluids in compartments. The bones act like spacers, providing the divergent forces needed to hold the spaces open.

Gravity has an interesting part to play here. By giving us weight, it increases the pre-tension in our ligaments and fascia. Pre-tension strengthens a tensegrity structure. Our ligaments and postural muscles have evolved to hold us in correct balance. Therefore, when the body is in balance, gravity, by increasing the pre-tension, provides support, enabling us to stand upright with minimal muscular effort. This is the basis of the Tensegrity. The larger the tensegrity structure the stronger it is due to its relationship to gravity due to increasing pre tension.

Tensegrities are natural oscillators, and Inber reported that "transmission of tension through a tensegrity array provides a means to distribute forces to all interconnected elements and, at the same time, to couple, or 'tune', the whole system mechanically as one."
http://www.intelligentbody.org.uk/edavies.php


Concerning dinosaurs, the long neck is much more problematic then the large size when it comes to Newtonian beams, levers and fulcrums. Something never brought up by the Newtonian group. A Giraffe is a good modern example. Newtonian groups cannot begin to understand their own issues let alone Tensegrity related issues until they leave the beams, levers and fulcrums behind.
http://www.sosort-lyon.net/tensegrity.htm
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:00 pm

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Giraffe drinking:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid= ... &plindex=5

Yes, so a giraffe by the mere fact that it is able to store the tension-energy by shifting weight and changing posture it is able to do the reverse by minimal amount of force.
Is it possible to say that small children (especially babies and toddlers) have a more natural position and posture because of the lesser amount of tension on the muscles? In that way for example babies having seemingly more strength/or grip when they get hold of a vinger and one is able to pull them upright without them having to put strain on muscles?
Then how does it come that it seems that when growing older people seem to forget that principle and start using muscle tension to move? Is that why children can seemingly expend more energy than adults, like in playing?
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:01 pm

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So let me add a piece of text to maybe show the application in the human body, correct me if I'm wrong:

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Combat Principles
A Word About Anatomical Weapons

The anatomical weapons in Taijiquan are not rigorously hardened like in external styles of martial arts. This is because it is not hardness of the weapon but the energy within it that is the effecting component. If the correct structure of the anatomical weapon is maintained, then structurally it will be substantial and able to deliver telling blows with much power without recourse to hardening. The appropriate efficient use of strength usually does not entail vast quantities of it to obtain the desired effect. The principles behind the adage of deflecting a thousand pounds with four ounces hold true in Taijiquan.


Bu Tiu Bu Ding: Not Letting Go, Not Resisting
This combat principle is first cultivated in Push Hands practice and later refined in San Shou practice. The key element in this principle is nian or sticking and it operates through nian jing or sticking jing. This is because without sticking, one cannot hear the opponent's energy and its qualities and so be able to control them effectively. And if we resist then we give the attacker a base for which to effect his attack.
That is why instead of deflecting, resisting and absorbing an opponent's attacking force, Taijiquan exponents evade, redirect and blend with it. Evade means simply to move out of his way. In any attack, there are only limited points of attack, so simply removing yourself out of his attacking focus by a change of position negates it. Upon contact, it is not a hard block but a blending with the attacking part by yeilding, sticking and following his momentum, joining his energy and redirecting it to your advantage.
Through Nian Jing or sticking energy we can then develop Ting Jing or listening to energy which is the sensitivity to detect the opponent's strength, its origin, trajectory, magnitude and component vectors. Once we are able to detect his energy movement and his centre of mass, we can effectively know his intent and control it by affecting the energy flow and centre of mass efficiently.


Sui Ren Zhi Shi, Jie Ren Zhi Li: Following His Posture, Borrowing His Strength
This simply means to follow your opponent's structure and adapt to it so that it is ineffective. This is practical application of the principle of Bu Tiu Bu Ding by yeilding and following him. Rather than a rigid application of postures learnt, the postures occur spontaneously in response to the opponent's structure.Borrowing his strength is essentially utilising his own strength against himself, either by causing it to over extend or to channel it through your own body structure back to him. He is literally then hitting himself and there is little expenditure by way of energy for the Taijiquan exponent.

This following of the opponent's structure is first learnt from Push Hands, which is why it is important that it not degrade it to a choreographed exercise. Sensing the movements and responding to them is correct rather than just going through the motions and not sensing them. If he does not move, you should not move, but even static, there will be structural flaws that can be detected by the touch and one can attack them by moving first. But be always aware of a possible trap, even during an attack, sensing plays a very important role in avoiding traps by responding in mid-attack and countering the trap.


Yin Jing Ru Kong: Attract Into Emptiness
Literally it means attract into emptiness. It is one of the most common tactic used in Taijiquan and is exemplified by the posture Roll Back which implements the opponent's entry into emptiness. The tactic essentially is presenting a false target for the opponent to attack and when he does, you spring the trap of letting his own momentum and mass be his own undoing by overextending it. Finding no target, he is naturally unbalanced and is easy to counter.

Fa-Jing: Emitting Energy
This is when the Taijiquan exponent attacks, it refers to the emission/transmission of energy out of the exponent's body and into the enemy or target. The whole process is of an explosive nature but at no point in it is the body or limbs rigid. Taijiquan exponents are noted for their great power when it comes to uprooting or bouncing an opponent out. This power, however, is applied appropriately and efficiently. Having alot of power but not knowing where to use it is quite useless, hence the importance of sensitivity. Sensitivity allows one to not only know the opponent and avoid his power but also know where to apply yours to greatest effect.
So is the appropriate use of great power then the key? No it isn't. Power in excess of what is required to achieve the neutralisation and control is inherently unstable. Refining the process till it becomes so efficient that minimum power can produce maximum effect. Then even an old man can best a young and strong one, not with more power but with the intelligent and efficient application of the body.

That is why masters like Zheng Man Qing can send a 200 pound man flying across the room but can find a bowling ball too heavy for him to carry on with the sport (example taken from Mr Lowenthal's book on Master Zheng). The seeming paradox is no paradox at all once one understands it.

Chang Jing: Long Energy
This is the most common type of energy emission used in Taijiquan. It develops from the feet and because the energy path is long, through all the joints and ending at the fingers, it is called Long Energy. It is commonly seen when Taijiquan exponents bounce out their push hands partners. The whole body of the opponent is physically pushed away by moving his centre of mass. If it is done correctly, both his feet should leave the ground when he is propelled away. This is why the technique is called uprooting.
The energy can be developed from the rear foot, the front foot or from one to the other. All the joints in the body work coordinatively and smoothly without tension to transfer, amplify and focus the generated energy to the point of attack. This type of energy is usually the first to be manifested by the exponent and though it can be spectacular, it does not cause very serious injury.

Duan Jing: Short Energy
This type of energy emission is less common and is considered a rather advanced method. The energy transmission path is shorter than that of Long Energy and originates at the centre of mass which is supported via the rooting leg. The energy emission begins at the centre of mass and propogates outwards. Down the root and out through the limbs. It is targeted on and acts upon the centre of mass of the opponent directly, using it as a base for a crushing attack that ruptures organs, rends musculature and breaks bones.The fastest application of such energy is called Leng Jing or Cold Energy. The reason it is called this is that the emission was so sudden that it catches the opponent by great surprise, so great it became fright, causing him to break out in cold sweat.


Jie Jing: Intercepting Energy or Receiving Energy
This skill has always been associated with the great masters and we know that Yang Lu Chan and more recently Yang Cheng Fu and his disciple Zheng Man Qing possessed this skill. It has been said to border on the mysterious and is hard to attain such skill. This skill can only be attained after one is learned in the feet, inches, tenths, hundreth parts and thousandths parts in Taijiquan. At lower levels of attainment, jie jing is expressed mainly through the hands, at higher levels where the entire body is responsive then it can be expressed from almost any part of the body.What this skill really means is that with an incoming object at speed, the body or contact point, by sticking and yeilding attains almost the same speed as the object. This means that since the acceleration of the object and the contact point is nearly the same, their relative speed to each other is small. By listening to the object's centre and vectors, an appropriate minimum vector can be applied to change the object's trajectory. If it is a balanced object, it can be easily pushed, if it is not it can be easily redirected. This is what Zheng Man Qing meant that in Jie Jing one must first attract the object first then throw it away.


Feet, Tenths, Hundreths Parts And Thousandths Parts
This means the devision of each movement in Taijiquan into ever finer gradations of movement, technique and jing flow. Each part is then meaningful and has an application in a combative context. The refinement of movements to efficiency is but the beginning, later each part of the movement itself has meaning and later each part of every part and so on.
This practice also ensures that the mind is concious of every part of the movement and every tiny movement of the body. Sensitivity is thus trained to a very fine degree as is the response to such minute stimulii. As the Classics state the goal quite clearly, to be so light and sensitive that a feather cannot be added nor a fly alight.


The Four Advanced Yang Taijiquan Combat Skills
There are situations where the skills and principles above require some augmentation to make them even more effective. This is usually where the opponent's skill level is high enough so that an effective counter is not possible using less injurous means. With such situations stronger discouragement is required and to cater for such eventualities, Yang Taijiquan has four advanced combat skills. These four skills can only be learned and applied effectively after one is able to understand each individual portion of any technique. In other words, one must be able to comprehend and put into practice the feet, tenths, hundreth parts and thousandth parts in Taijiquan. These four skills are recorded in the handwritten manual handed down from Yang Lu Chan. It must be noted that the four skills are not used entirely on their own but are integrated to form a comprehensive system of attack and defence built upon the basics of stability, sensitivity, agility and efficient use of the body and energy.


Bi Xue: Sealing Accupoints
This is also known as Hitting Accupoints and is more commonly known among Chinese martial artists as Dian Xue or Dotting Accupoints because the majority of these kinds of attack make use of the fingertips. Attacking accupoints is by no means unique to Taijiquan but the way it is done is certainly quite unique. Whilst other martial arts often make use of serious conditioning of the anatomical weapons and vigourous body conditioning to develop the strength and resistance required to hit accpoints, Taijiquan uses positional and structural advantage to let the opponent provide the power to hit himself with his own power and mass.Accupoints are divided into fatal and non-fatal accopoints. Fatal accupoints are only used in a life and death situation as they are cause death very quickly and should not be used indiscriminately. Non-fatal accupoints are used to simply disable or incapcitate the opponent without causing too much harm. There are also accupoints that are more effective at different times of the day depending on the qi flow in the body. These timed strikes are of a more insidious nature as they are used for delayed killing or assassinations.
A short list of some of the accupoints used in Taijiquan is provided but readers are advised against using them unless absolutely necessary and to refrain from experimentation as the recovery techniques should be properly understood before one should practice with accupoints. Even then it is advisible not to practice them with any sort of impact since any accupoint strike on the body is a severe disruption of the body's systems and will have an affect on health of the body, both in the long term and in the short term. In most cases, even after remedial massage and accupoint treatment is carried out, herbs are taken to strengthen and stablise the body in order to eliminate any after effects.

Zhua Jing: Grasping Muscles
Grasping musculature in Taijiquan is akin to the specialisation of Chin-Na (Grasping and Holding) which is an advanced skill in many forms of Chinese martial arts. The difference is that in Taijiquan, the use of positional advantage, momentum and structural advantage is of more importance than super strong fingers. The sensitivity of combat Taijiquan permits the use of the opponent's structure, position, mass and momentum against himself causing him to literally lock and tie himself up with his structure with the Taijiquan exponent simply helping him do it.
The result of this is that his body is unstable, rendering him vulnerable to serious injury should the the Taijiquan exponent chooses to do so. The locks and holds also cause sprains, tears of the musculature and dislocations of bones at the joints which further disable the opponent.


Jie Mo: Sectioning Fascia
This skill is directed at restricting blood flow so as to render the body ineffectual in the execution of attacks. This is done primarily by structural control so that the position and state of the musculature and soft tissues of the opponent are such that the blood flow to certain parts of the body is restricted. Blood flow pressure points or gate points as they are referred to in Chinese are also used to effect this. This can cause the limb to go to sleep or cause a knock out. Also part of this skill is the restriction of air flow by attacking the respiratory system and the musculature that powers it. Strikes are sometimes used to effect this.
Positional and structural advantage and use is essential to restrict and control his body. This is possible to a fine degree through the tactile sensitivity attained through dilligent practice in pushing hands and sparring hands.


Na Mai: Holding Vessels
This refers to the grasping, holding and pushing of the qi meridians and accupoints with the purpose of disrupting and controlling the qi flow in the body. This makes the body impaired in terms of function and movement rendering the opponent vulnerable. Where Grasping Muscles attacks the physical structure of the body and Sectioning Fascia attacks the circulatory system, Holding Vessels attacks the internal vital energy flow which is distinct from the accupoints and the striking of them.
A good knowledge of the body's qi meridians is necessary as is the results of their disruption and blockage. As with the above skills, the opponent own body and energy is used against himself through superior information via tactile sensitivity and appropriate efficient application to obtain the desired result.


Healing And Harming
When one can destroy a thing, one controls a thing. The knowledge and skill to cause destruction and death of the body can also be used to restore health and prolong life. The four advanced skills mentioned briefly above all require a thorough and intimate knowledge of the body and its functions. This knowledge can be used to heal injuries and illnesses by opening blockages to qi and blood circulation, restoring proper musculature position and function.
Often, this healing function is learned first before the harming function is taught. This ensures a proper disposition and respect for the skill as well a firm grounding in the theoretical base and its practical application. It is because these skills are so destructive that they are seldom taught and a large proportion of exponents in the art are not aware of their existance. They are passed on only to the most trusted of disciples who will not abuse them but use them for the benefit of all mankind.

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Taichi/combat.html
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:02 pm

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adding just a tidbit extra:

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5. Hang Your Shoulders & Elbows

Your shoulders hang from your head & neck, your elbows hang from your shoulders. From your head and spine they hang, by your trapezius musculature and a variety of tensile structures. When the shoulders & elbows hang, they can be driven by the lower muscules (like latissimus dorsi) and thereby develop great power.

6. Use Tensile Strength, Not Compressive Strength

The architecture of your body is continuous tensile membranes wrapping discontinuous compressive members…i.e. your bones (compressive members) are wrapped in fascia (all physiological structures are wrapped in this “skin”). Explore this concept to develop a mature idea about strength.

7. Coordinate Your Upper & Lower Body

Move them together, move them separately. Sense deeply. Eventually, power is driven by the legs, churned in the waist, and slung out the hands.

http://www.taichiutah.org/tag/tai-chi-chuan
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:04 pm

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some visuals for understanding:

Building a Tensegrity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7agYb_rZ6U
tensegrity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQidNvw3 ... re=related
And maybe even more related to this subject and the dinosaur-thread:

Theo Jansen - Animaris Rhinoceros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2KkGFuRLew&NR=1
The Animaris Rhinoceros Transport is a type of animal with a steel skeleton and a polyester skin. It looks as if there is a thick layer of sand coating the animal. It weighes 2 tons and it stands 4.70 meters tall. Because of its height it catches enough wind to start moving.
Image

http://www.strandbeest.com/#

Simulation CGI of Theo Jansen 's Mechanism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GgOn66knqA&NR=1
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:06 pm

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I have built many tensegritys. Really cool to do and great to experiment with once completed.
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:07 pm

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Looking at it in another way, everybody has build a tensegrity. Namely his/hers own body .
Actually doing taichichuan made me realize it is possible for every person to experience tensegrity in ones own body, it takes time and learning to act without thinking.
It also made me learn how thinking/emotions can store themselves in the body in the form of tensions.
Junglelord, from your point of view/field, how is that relation between psyche and body perceived? By what kind of reactions of patients is the release of tension in the body percieved?
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:08 pm

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The patient can have no emotional reaction and just show a physical response but that is not always the case. The memory of the injury is stored in the place of stored high tension. This is from the high impact velocity injury where it lodges in the body after the wave ceases to travel. The emotional response to therapy is very unique to the manuel therapy model and is very powerful when used in conjunction with Psycho Therapy. The mind body connection becomes so evident in situations like that. Most high velocity impact injuries are highly charged emotional events. The emotional release is just as powerful as the tensegrity integration.

The integration of body and mind is a key component to the success of the tensegrity approach. We seek to reconstruct the tensional bridge between all tissue via the fascia and the tensegrity model. Beyond that we attempt to cause a powerful shift in the Autonomic Nervous System with a large increase in Vagal Tone being the correction of the ANS.

We seek to balance all aspects of the human condition. Thats why we call it Structural Integration. We take a holistic approach that considers all aspects of the individual. High velocity impact injury is a event that often leaves one feeling left in pieces and fractured emotionally due to the physical trauma. We seek to integrate all aspects of the person, mind, body and spirit.

Typically the simple pre and post treatment orthopedic assessment will demonstrate increased ROM (range of motion), increased strength, improved posture, decreased sympathetic tone, increased vagal tone and significant decrease or entire loss of pain. The tensegrity structure test will also show negitive at that time while they were positive pre treatment. That means tension is balanced throughout the body. Thats why I call my own particular approach to Systems Therapy, Tensional Release Therapy. Once the tension is integrated the structure is again sound and will function accordingly.
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:08 pm

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Thank you, I can see how that relates to injuries by high impact. But is there also understanding in the psychological tensions and the how and where the tension can manifest? Take for instance a psychological stress is experienced by a future patient in a certain situation, suppose anger/sadness is experienced and this is internalized and not expressed, are there specific places in the body this is generaly 'stored'? And in 'releasing' this tension the patient can 're-experience' the involved emotion? For simple example if stored anger is released is a certain irritabillity experienced during/after the treatment or are patients feeling exhausted?
After the treatment has stopped does the patient still have to do certain activities to maintain the integration as mentioned by you?
How does the therapist know when the treatment comes to an end?
Is it neccesary for the therapist to be himself completely 'integrated' to give a succesful treatment?
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby junglelord » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:09 pm

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In chinese medicine the emotions are stored in the liver.

Being stuck in a tensegrity sense will have emotional baggage so to speak as it prevents you from being whole.

Being stuck in a psychologoical place can be integrated with fascial therapy like Structural Integration although it may not be from a local fixation but a holistic condition. Posture and emotions are connected. Ever see a happy person that slouches or a slouch that is happy?

The emotions are stored in the tissue was a favorite saying of Ida Rolf.

When is the treatment done? Every patient is of course an individual. Having said that the treatments last anywhere from 30 mins to 90 mins. We look for determining factors that I mentioned, Tensegrity negitive response, pain is gone or drasticly reduced, ROM and strength is increased, most importantly the ANS is integrated to vagal tone.

Because fascia has more proprioceptors then any other tissue and since some of those receptors have just been identified its truly a bit of a model that is still gaining evidence. That evidence points to the ANS being the driving force that connects the tensegrity model to the biological response. Thats why vagal tone is so important in the scheme of fascial therapy. The integration of the ANS is as important to achieve for the patient as it is to integrate the tensegrity structure on a purely tensional level. They are two sides of the same coin as far as I can tell as a medical therapist based on patients response.
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Re: Recovered: Tensegrity Structures in Biology

Unread postby StefanR » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:11 pm

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junglelord wrote:
I take a structural approach to my acupuncture model more then a eastern approach...
I refer to a classicly trained Chinese Doctor who is also a western doctor for my acupuncture referals..


So how in your view are acupuncture and fascia related?


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The patient can have no emotional reaction and just show a physical response but that is not always the case.


What types of physical response are there?
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