The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor?

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The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor?

Unread post by nubian » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:58 pm

I am new here, and i love the open mindedness of most people here. After reading about the electric universe, i started questioning almost everything i have been taught about in college.

With regards to how nature moves(centripetal, twin spiral vortices), can we really say the heart is a pump? How does it manage to supposedly pump 6000-7000 liters of blood every day(more with activity), and at the same time, maintain the high pressures in the capillaries that are located far away from it?

Remember the heart operates at about 1.5 watts, with no motors(non visible). By engineering standards, this should be impossible. Any hydrologists, biologists or electrical/mechanical engineers that can argue solidly that the heart indeed is capable of pumping such amount of blood?

Could it be that the heart is conducting EM fields from other hearts around?

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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by nubian » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:00 pm

NOTE: there are people who have managed to live without hearts. So doesn't this destroy the conventional premise?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/2 ... 45210.html

http://brightonhighnewspaper.blogspot.c ... ussia.html

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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by mathew » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:07 am

Hello-

As I understand it, the heart is a vortex facilitator/ regulator:
(the physical action of the vortex creates an EM field)
http://www.esalenctr.org/display/confpa ... 9&pgtype=1

Frank Chester:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW_URLqFDHs

http://frankchester.com/sculpture/?px=% ... hedron.jpg
The Chestahedron is the first heptahedron of this configuration in the history of geometry. This sculpture has 7 surfaces (consisting of 4 triangles and 3 quadrilaterals), 7 points and 12 edges. If this heptahedron is rotated around the vertical axis, it forms a bell-like external surface of a certain profile: a cone at the top connected to a hyperbolic at the bottom. Other type heptahedra, or less-faced polyhedra do not provide a bell-type figure. For this reason it is supposed that the Chestahedron in rotation is the first geometrical bell shape form ever found and therefore it is the first time the mystery behind the geometry of the bell has been solved in the history of bell making. It has been found in years of research that this geometry is the basis of the left ventricle of the human heart. The midway point between the idea of the human heart and the manifestation of the human heart. Naming the Chestahedron came from the heart being the dominant organ in the chest.
Vortex Fountain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MquEyGEi9Tw

See Also Victor Schauberger:
http://www.schauberger.co.uk/home.html
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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by Phorce » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:28 am

nubian wrote:Any hydrologists, biologists or electrical/mechanical engineers that can argue solidly that the heart indeed is capable of pumping such amount of blood?
The heart is closely connected to fractality (think of all those branching blood vessels) and way charge is connected to fractality and Golden Mean ... lots of overview here - http://goldenmean.info
Exploration and discovery without honest investigation of "extraordinary" results leads to a Double Bind (Bateson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind ) that creates loss of hope and depression. No more Double Binds !

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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by nubian » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:57 pm

The heart is closely connected to fractality (think of all those branching blood vessels) and way charge is connected to fractality and Golden Mean ... lots of overview here - http://goldenmean.info

Thanks. This makes more sense, especially since the muscles of the heart form double spirals:
"Muscle consists of about 75% water. The spiraling and looping pattern of the heart fibers, including the beautiful heart vortex, is an image of fluid movement. The blood streaming through the heart also creates loops and vortices. Like the fibers of the heart, this movement is very complex and intricate. In a sense, what the blood does as a fluid has become formed in the muscular structure of the heart (see figure 3)."
http://www.natureinstitute.org/pub/ic/ic7/heart.htm

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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by reka » Mon May 28, 2012 6:27 am

We live in a sea of electro-magnetism, just as fish live in a sea of water.

Just consider that we can live for about 3 days without water, about 3 months without food,
but only 3 minutes without air.

The air is filled with the electricity that drives our engine.
Now, how would this all be described to someone who doesn't understand
the mechanism behind the science, or for that fact, to anyone who lived
prior to our science dominated era?


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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by ambermollers » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:59 pm

nubian wrote:NOTE: there are people who have managed to live without hearts. So doesn't this destroy the conventional premise?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/2 ... 45210.html

http://brightonhighnewspaper.blogspot.c ... ussia.html

Amazed by this articles.This is the first time that I knew of this. Thank you for sharing.

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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by Phorce » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:11 am

ambermollers wrote:
nubian wrote:NOTE: there are people who have managed to live without hearts. So doesn't this destroy the conventional premise?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/2 ... 45210.html

http://brightonhighnewspaper.blogspot.c ... ussia.html

Amazed by this articles.This is the first time that I knew of this. Thank you for sharing.
The first lady only lived for 4 months without a real heart until she got a transplant. Notice that she says that she felt like a "fake person" in that time. The second story appears to have it's origin in a story from Pravda ... the Russian equivalent of the Sunday Sport.

Of course some politicians and bankers have already been proven to lack that organ :mrgreen:

Here's a better link, Plastic heart gives dad Matthew Green new lease of life, but I'm not sure if that is replacing the entire heart.
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Re: The heart. Is it really a pump, or a dam, or a conductor

Unread post by D_Archer » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:19 am

This reminds me, good old times with JL :D

junglelord wrote:
D_Archer wrote:
junglelord wrote:Two pump beams, two phase conjugate waves, a four wave mixer...that is the system. Plain and simple.
I think you just described the human heart, as above so below indeed.

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Daniel
You see, I never thought of that one....way too go....now to meditate on that...shit, thats good.
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