Worlds in Collision

[whitenightf3]

Just finished reading this book and it seems to support the EU hypothesis. Anyone else here read it?

[jacmac]

Yes,
I would say the EU hypothesis (and all the evidence being collected) supports the basic ideas of Worlds in Collision.
The EU hypothesis gives us the forces necessary for the events in Worlds in Collision to take place.
Jack

[Steve Smith]

Wal Thornhill and Dave Talbott credit their inspiration to Immanuel Velikovsky. I write the Picture of the Day articles as a direct result of reading WIC and Earth in Upheaval back in the early 70s.

[Lloyd]

* Oops. Steve beat me to the punch. But I have a few more details to mention.
* Velikovsky's books, Worlds in Collision, Earth in Upheaval, etc are what primarily led to EU theory. In 1968 Dave Talbott first read I.V.'s book/s and in 1972 he published a quarterly magazine, called Pensee': Velikovsky Reconsidered, which seems to have revived interest in I.V.'s ideas among scientists and laypeople, although Alfred DeGrazia had also joined with several scientists in writing The Velikovsky Affair in 1967, which showed mistreatment of I.V. especially among publishers and the media. In 1974 the AAAS, led from behind the scenes by Margaret Mead, its president, and openly by Carl Sagan, I.V.'s main antagonist, conducted a kangaroo court hearing (calling it a symposium) to "debate" I.V.'s findings. Although I.V. defended himself pretty well, mainstream science media and the general media claimed that I.V. was soundly defeated in the "debate". I learned within the last few years that Mead was a major proponent of global warming, as she talked at a global warming conference in 1975, if I recall rightly. I believe Sagan had popularized the notion that Venus' unexpectedly high heat was caused by the CO2 greenhouse effect. I.V., on the other hand, had claimed that Venus' heat was caused by its having been a new planet. So the global warmers apparently felt that they had to discredit I.V. in order to prevent scientists from considering his idea, instead of the greenhouse theory.
* Talbott's magazine, Pensee', covered the symposium in issue #7 fairly extensively and showed all the lying that went on there. There were ten issues of Pensee' in all. It folded in 1975. But, luckily, Kronos magazine took over at that time, based on the East coast, probably NJ. Talbott was in OR. Kronos had ten years of quarterly issues with many great articles, some by I.V. I think he had written for Pensee' as well. Aeon magazine took over after that and maybe SIS Review etc. Then came the Thoth email newsetter in the late 90s through about 2004, which then led to the Thunderbolts website.
* Velikovsky had mentioned electrical and magnetic effects between planets and moons during catastrophic planetary near encounters. And that led Ralph Juergens, an electrical engineer, to write several articles in Pensee' and Kronos about substantial evidence that rilles on the Moon were formed by electric discharges. He also wrote an article later suggesting that the Sun is the focus of electric discharge. Wal Thornhill and Don Scott added much more evidence of electrical phenomena in the universe thereafter and that sort of brings us up to date.
* Any more questions?

[whitenightf3]

Yes is the sun hot like they claim if so why when you go up everything gets cold at 35,000 feet ice forms and when you go into space its even colder.

Thanks for the responses I need to come here more often. I bought Thunderbolts of the gods a couple of years back. Is it best to buy the books from here or Amazon?

Lastly I see that Dave and Wallace make it into this film and I wonder what you guys here make of it. I myself was one night awoken by this tall being of light standing over me. It was not a dream, my wife also saw it personally I think we exist in the mind of God technically called Panpsychism:

Secrets Of The Djinn & The Dark Plasma Universe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A7iFtnd ... r_embedded