starbiter wrote:Hello Aardwolf: In my last post i stated that a repeat of the Carrington might not melt printed circuits [PC}. Above You ask why it would. I'm not certain an Electromagnetic pulse [EMP] wouldn't melt printed circuits, are You.?
Incorrect, you stated it might melt printed circuits not that it might not.
starbiter wrote:During the Carrington Event [CE} only telegraph operators were burned and injured. I never stated the telegraph system was destroyed. Please. Things have changed slightly since 1859. It's transformers and electronics that are vulnerable, not so much the wires.
Even when the battery power was removed the system remained energized. That is a clue.
Utility companies have been aware of the problems caused by CME’s for decades. It might take a handful out but not sufficiently enough to reduce the population from billions to millions.
starbiter wrote:We have become dependent on a highly sophisticated system requiring electricity and printed circuits. Without these the food that feeds the 2 billion people without electricity would diminish greatly. Water also. Without PC the transportation system would grind to a halt. Logistics would become impossible for the needs of 7 billion.
The 2 billion I refered to are not spoon fed by the rest of the world. They live off the land as well as it can sustain them. The modern world relies on the infrastructure but you have not sufficiently explained the reasoning behind the total loss of electricity and printed circuits.
starbiter wrote:The consequences of an EMP could be mitigated by disconnecting the grid. If more people were aware of EU concepts we would be better prepared now.
The people that matter are fully aware of it due to their previous CME experiences.
starbiter wrote:Unfortunately a CME from the Sun isn't the only option for an EMP. It seems stars have a nasty habit of ejecting gas giants on occasion. At least that is an option in an EU. Or stars occasionally fission creating a binary system. Gas giants are reported to have ejected huge comets and planets. The consequences are part of myth and legend. It was a nightmare for people without a dependency on electricity, as far as we know. We are probably more vulnerable.
That a different matter entirely.
starbiter wrote:I've never said technology wouldn't return without a grid and electronics. It's just the consequences of the time lag.
The grid in Quebec was knocked out by a CME for 9 hours in 1989. Is that long enough to kill 6 billion +?
starbiter wrote:It could be thousands of years before the next electrical event. Tens of thousands with any luck. Or tomorrow.
The sun produces on average around 2-3 CME’s a week.
starbiter wrote:Dr Velikovsky wrote a book called Mankind in Amnesia. The premise is that people couldn't handle the idea of such vulnerability. They suppressed the memory of what had just transpired, Venus/Mars, into a morality play. Reality was too much. We, the descendants of the survivors inherit this problem. It explains the reluctance of people to entertain the possibility of catastrophe. It touches a nerve.
On the contrary Nuclear War, Nuclear Winter, Global Cooling, Global Warming, Global Climate Disruption, Bird Flu, Ozone Layer Depletion, DDT, Peak Oil etc. etc., the list goes on; are evidence that mankind is more than happy to entertain possibilities of catastrophe even when there’s no genuine scientific or logical reason to do so. Normally it’s politically driven and perpetuated by alarmists or individuals with vested interests.