Possible electrical scars on Planet Earth...
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Re: pobiti kamyni, Varna Bulgaria
Well it is a sandy area and the stones are hollow cylinders, have fulgurites been discarded as a possibility?
The region's pagan traditions speak of many gods, but the most powerful of all was the god of thunder and lightning, Perun. There are also plants in the region named after , as they grow in areas where lightning struck.
It is said that the stone forest also has many plants unique to that location.
There are specific symbols used in people's homes to this day which represent this god, according to Wikipedia these symbols represent ball lightning:
Gromoviti znaci or thunder marks such as these are ancient symbols of Perun, which are often engraved upon roof beams of village houses, particularly in Eastern Slavic populations, to protect them from lightning bolts. It is conjectured their circular shape symbolises ball lightning.
Just scratching the surface here, but perhaps the region has known some spectacular lightning and thunder events, and created these sort of giant fulgurites?
The current theory elaborated by local researchers suggests gas bubbles caused these shapes while the region was underwater. I have not checked it, I think it it might need translating from Bulgarian, but on the surface seems more of a hypothesis.
The region's pagan traditions speak of many gods, but the most powerful of all was the god of thunder and lightning, Perun. There are also plants in the region named after , as they grow in areas where lightning struck.
It is said that the stone forest also has many plants unique to that location.
There are specific symbols used in people's homes to this day which represent this god, according to Wikipedia these symbols represent ball lightning:
Gromoviti znaci or thunder marks such as these are ancient symbols of Perun, which are often engraved upon roof beams of village houses, particularly in Eastern Slavic populations, to protect them from lightning bolts. It is conjectured their circular shape symbolises ball lightning.
Just scratching the surface here, but perhaps the region has known some spectacular lightning and thunder events, and created these sort of giant fulgurites?
The current theory elaborated by local researchers suggests gas bubbles caused these shapes while the region was underwater. I have not checked it, I think it it might need translating from Bulgarian, but on the surface seems more of a hypothesis.
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Re: pobiti kamyni, Varna Bulgaria
justcurious wrote:Well it is a sandy area and the stones are hollow cylinders, have fulgurites been discarded as a possibility?
The region's pagan traditions speak of many gods, but the most powerful of all was the god of thunder and lightning, Perun. There are also plants in the region named after , as they grow in areas where lightning struck.
It is said that the stone forest also has many plants unique to that location.
There are specific symbols used in people's homes to this day which represent this god, according to Wikipedia these symbols represent ball lightning:
Gromoviti znaci or thunder marks such as these are ancient symbols of Perun, which are often engraved upon roof beams of village houses, particularly in Eastern Slavic populations, to protect them from lightning bolts. It is conjectured their circular shape symbolises ball lightning.
Just scratching the surface here, but perhaps the region has known some spectacular lightning and thunder events, and created these sort of giant fulgurites?
The current theory elaborated by local researchers suggests gas bubbles caused these shapes while the region was underwater. I have not checked it, I think it it might need translating from Bulgarian, but on the surface seems more of a hypothesis.
Fulgurites are a good possibility, IMO. The area in Sinai linked below could be a cousin. The area has been mentioned on this forum earlier.
http://goo.gl/maps/x8DQC If You click on the upper right x, the map will appear.
If the objects in Bulgaria are fulgurites then the surrounding area should have carbonates, as the towers do. If just the towers are carbonate rich, that might suggest comet dust from above. The objects in Sinai are reported to be basalt. This suggest molten dust to me. It might be easier to attract iron rich basalt from airborne dust, then from under the surface. The image below shows basalt covering the surrounding area.
http://discoversinai.net/english/wp-con ... ircuit.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhangjiaji ... orest_Park This area in China seems similar, but not matching.
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Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8 ... 53627e1b7b
Also known as the Richat Structure, it was originally thought that this was caused by an asteroid impact. But because of a lack of evidence for "Shock metamorphism" caused from a hypervelocity extraterrestrial impact, that theory was thrown out and the structure as of present "requires further investigation of its origin"
Suffice to say, this was definitely produced by some form of large-scale electrical discharge. But how exactly did it produce the pattern? Could it have been several pulsed discharges in the same place? Was it a continuous discharge that rapidly rotated around, forming several concentric circles?
There are also Lichtenberg figures everywhere in and around the structure. Would this mean there were thousands of 'smaller' lightning streamers branching off from a larger discharge arc?
Also known as the Richat Structure, it was originally thought that this was caused by an asteroid impact. But because of a lack of evidence for "Shock metamorphism" caused from a hypervelocity extraterrestrial impact, that theory was thrown out and the structure as of present "requires further investigation of its origin"
Suffice to say, this was definitely produced by some form of large-scale electrical discharge. But how exactly did it produce the pattern? Could it have been several pulsed discharges in the same place? Was it a continuous discharge that rapidly rotated around, forming several concentric circles?
There are also Lichtenberg figures everywhere in and around the structure. Would this mean there were thousands of 'smaller' lightning streamers branching off from a larger discharge arc?
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Re: Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
There's a smaller, similar crater directly to the west.
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Re: Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
Impressive! Just around the corner is Morocco and the Atlast mountains, known for having lots of Martian rocks. Coincidence?
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Re: Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
We now know from the Russian meteor that there are multiple discharges.
So this interplanetary scar must also be multiple discharges, varying in strength, over the same area. With such a large discharge, the time it discharges is longer enabling some time for the smaller discharges to occur and creating the lichtenberg figures. Impressive.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... richat.htm
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So this interplanetary scar must also be multiple discharges, varying in strength, over the same area. With such a large discharge, the time it discharges is longer enabling some time for the smaller discharges to occur and creating the lichtenberg figures. Impressive.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... richat.htm
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Re: Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
I see a diocotron instability pulling in material. Rotating rings of incoming ions.
http://www.plasma-universe.com/Diocotron_instability
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8 ... 73,69.72,0
I see similar formations in the SW USA. The areas above the inland sea were covered by circular mountain formations.
http://goo.gl/maps/Hk1yA
The linked TPOD below shows the Mercury version.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/12 ... er-year-2/
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https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8 ... 73,69.72,0
I see similar formations in the SW USA. The areas above the inland sea were covered by circular mountain formations.
http://goo.gl/maps/Hk1yA
The linked TPOD below shows the Mercury version.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/12 ... er-year-2/
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Tweed Valley, NSW
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Re: Tweed Valley, NSW
Hello Scott,
The USA has similar formations. IMO the US formations have nothing to do with volcanoes. Los Alamos, famous for making A bombs, seems to be a cousin to Tweed Valley.
http://goo.gl/maps/wLQOY
I imagine a large vortex over the area while the air was choked with dust. This would be during the world wide plague of darkness. The dust, sand, gravel, rocks and boulders would be sorted by their ionic nature. The airborne conglomerate would be pulled inward by the vortex. When the current density increases the conglomerate would melt creating solid rock layers. If the area is covered by water the dust and sand would be washed away. That might explain the half circle of the Tweed valley formation.
Los Alamos is actually a vortex within a larger vortex centered W of Farmington, NM.
http://goo.gl/maps/1w1io
There is a second vortex SW of Los Alamos that seems to be related.
http://goo.gl/maps/IlCv1
The area to the S was probably flooded preventing accumulation.
Mount Warning would have grown into the direction of the wind. The first image below would have the wind coming from the left.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sit ... yyuP9wgk4o
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The USA has similar formations. IMO the US formations have nothing to do with volcanoes. Los Alamos, famous for making A bombs, seems to be a cousin to Tweed Valley.
http://goo.gl/maps/wLQOY
I imagine a large vortex over the area while the air was choked with dust. This would be during the world wide plague of darkness. The dust, sand, gravel, rocks and boulders would be sorted by their ionic nature. The airborne conglomerate would be pulled inward by the vortex. When the current density increases the conglomerate would melt creating solid rock layers. If the area is covered by water the dust and sand would be washed away. That might explain the half circle of the Tweed valley formation.
Los Alamos is actually a vortex within a larger vortex centered W of Farmington, NM.
http://goo.gl/maps/1w1io
There is a second vortex SW of Los Alamos that seems to be related.
http://goo.gl/maps/IlCv1
The area to the S was probably flooded preventing accumulation.
Mount Warning would have grown into the direction of the wind. The first image below would have the wind coming from the left.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sit ... yyuP9wgk4o
michael
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Re: Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
My belief is that the formation of the Richat Structure was not only electrical in nature, but that the event causing its formation left its signature/scar across the entire expanse of the Eastern Hemisphere, with its rotational center being at Lake Tuz in central Turkey.
I've mentioned this on a previous thread here: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... hat#p41147 (scroll down past the Kamil crater stuff and the long list of coordinates for various things in the Egyptian desert, to the picture of Earth overlaid with a spiral formation)
... and in further detail at this thread: http://thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpBB3/v ... 798#p30798
I've mentioned this on a previous thread here: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... hat#p41147 (scroll down past the Kamil crater stuff and the long list of coordinates for various things in the Egyptian desert, to the picture of Earth overlaid with a spiral formation)
... and in further detail at this thread: http://thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpBB3/v ... 798#p30798
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Re: Eye of Sahara: 40km Dia. Structure of Concentric Circles
This feature is an analog of a very similar feature on Mars ...
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Re: Tweed Valley, NSW
Thanks starbiter,
I'm not sure of what a paid-up plasma geographer would have to say about the formation of the Tweed.
As a geographer (B.A.) the radial dendretic and lichenberg ridge lines and the many kinds of geo-symmetries and patterns found in and beyond the valley are indicators that perhaps more complex and energetic active processes were involved in the formation of the Tweed and surrounds than magma and erosion.
With a simple understanding of electricity, gained pretty much solely from amasci.com come to think of it..., it seems sensible to suggest that when two differentially charged bodies, say like the earth and some other planet or moon sized object for instance, get close enough for actual charges to form a current between them, hey do and it does - and two or more points are then connected via arc mode plasma as dark mode plasmas are activated as charges move to equalise the difference.
My assumption is that when electrons are being transferred in a current to the earth due to its relative positive charge in relation to a somehow nearby 'planet sized object x', then positive charges travel back up that current on the outside, and sometimes also in the middle. Positive charges don't like to separate from their associated molecules, and so in the process of being plasma pull up 'crater' walls and sometimes a central peak, while associated electrical energy forces lift ridges as they drag protons out of the earth.
I'm not sure of what a paid-up plasma geographer would have to say about the formation of the Tweed.
As a geographer (B.A.) the radial dendretic and lichenberg ridge lines and the many kinds of geo-symmetries and patterns found in and beyond the valley are indicators that perhaps more complex and energetic active processes were involved in the formation of the Tweed and surrounds than magma and erosion.
With a simple understanding of electricity, gained pretty much solely from amasci.com come to think of it..., it seems sensible to suggest that when two differentially charged bodies, say like the earth and some other planet or moon sized object for instance, get close enough for actual charges to form a current between them, hey do and it does - and two or more points are then connected via arc mode plasma as dark mode plasmas are activated as charges move to equalise the difference.
My assumption is that when electrons are being transferred in a current to the earth due to its relative positive charge in relation to a somehow nearby 'planet sized object x', then positive charges travel back up that current on the outside, and sometimes also in the middle. Positive charges don't like to separate from their associated molecules, and so in the process of being plasma pull up 'crater' walls and sometimes a central peak, while associated electrical energy forces lift ridges as they drag protons out of the earth.
99.999+% of everything can't be that simple, can it?
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Re: Tweed Valley, NSW
Thanks starbiter,
I'm not sure of what a paid-up plasma geographer would have to say about the formation of the Tweed.
As a geographer (B.A.) the radial dendretic and lichtenberg ridge lines and the many kinds of Geo-symmetries and patterns found in and beyond the valley are indicators that perhaps more complex and energetic active processes were involved in the formation of the Tweed and surrounds than magma and erosion.
With a simple understanding of electricity, gained pretty much solely from amasci.com come to think of it..., it seems sensible to suggest that when two differentially charged bodies, say like the earth and some other planet or moon sized object for instance, get close enough for actual charges to form a current between them, it does - and two or more points are connected via plasma as charges move to equalise the difference.
My assumption is that when electrons are being transferred in a current to the earth due to its relative positive charge in relation to a somehow nearby 'planet sized object x', then positive charges travel back up that current on the outside, and sometimes also in the middle. Positive charges don't like to separate from their associated molecules, and so in the process of being plasma pull up 'crater' walls and sometimes a central peak, while associated electrical energy forces lift those ridges as they drag protons out of the earth.
Can't prove it - haven't got a lab.
I'm not sure of what a paid-up plasma geographer would have to say about the formation of the Tweed.
As a geographer (B.A.) the radial dendretic and lichtenberg ridge lines and the many kinds of Geo-symmetries and patterns found in and beyond the valley are indicators that perhaps more complex and energetic active processes were involved in the formation of the Tweed and surrounds than magma and erosion.
With a simple understanding of electricity, gained pretty much solely from amasci.com come to think of it..., it seems sensible to suggest that when two differentially charged bodies, say like the earth and some other planet or moon sized object for instance, get close enough for actual charges to form a current between them, it does - and two or more points are connected via plasma as charges move to equalise the difference.
My assumption is that when electrons are being transferred in a current to the earth due to its relative positive charge in relation to a somehow nearby 'planet sized object x', then positive charges travel back up that current on the outside, and sometimes also in the middle. Positive charges don't like to separate from their associated molecules, and so in the process of being plasma pull up 'crater' walls and sometimes a central peak, while associated electrical energy forces lift those ridges as they drag protons out of the earth.
Can't prove it - haven't got a lab.
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The Mariana Trench
I don't know if this has been suggested before, but given that if the 2,400 mile-long canyon Valles Marineris on Mars was indeed the result of plasma arcing, or interplanetary 'thunderbolts' then, one would expect similar formations on other solar system bodies. Thus, where on Earth?
Please consider the Mariana Trench .. by far the 'deepest' place on planet Earth. Do have a look at it on Google Earth.
Extending the ends, it would appear to extend in the traditional 'S' shape around Alaska and New Zealand. As the Earth and Mars have a nine to one mass ratio, then hence, one might expect a similar size ratio between an arc scar between Valles Marineris and any reciprocating scar on Earth. And, logically, and arc would fall along (cause?) tectonic plate borders or edges, with its most severe plate fragmentation surrounding the central arc pit, for eg, the Philippine tectonic plate.
Also, consider the traditional anode/cathode deposition and extraction of matter. For example, the low of the Pacific Basin and the corresponding height of the Asian/European continent?
Thus it seems to me that the deepest place on Earth,the Mariana Trench, should definitely be one likely candidate for a corresponding Earth arc trench?
Please consider the Mariana Trench .. by far the 'deepest' place on planet Earth. Do have a look at it on Google Earth.
Extending the ends, it would appear to extend in the traditional 'S' shape around Alaska and New Zealand. As the Earth and Mars have a nine to one mass ratio, then hence, one might expect a similar size ratio between an arc scar between Valles Marineris and any reciprocating scar on Earth. And, logically, and arc would fall along (cause?) tectonic plate borders or edges, with its most severe plate fragmentation surrounding the central arc pit, for eg, the Philippine tectonic plate.
Also, consider the traditional anode/cathode deposition and extraction of matter. For example, the low of the Pacific Basin and the corresponding height of the Asian/European continent?
Thus it seems to me that the deepest place on Earth,the Mariana Trench, should definitely be one likely candidate for a corresponding Earth arc trench?
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Re: Possible electrical scars on Planet Earth...
A map of all the rivers in the United States, and nothing else
http://io9.com/a-map-of-all-the-rivers- ... -513353739
FRACTAL PATTERNS IN DRIED OUT DESERT RIVERS
http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/pictur ... rt-rivers/
http://io9.com/a-map-of-all-the-rivers- ... -513353739
FRACTAL PATTERNS IN DRIED OUT DESERT RIVERS
http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/pictur ... rt-rivers/
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