Brace yourselves for Comet ISON (coming 2013)

[Solar]

Guys, this Ison comet really is a massive asset to EU evidence.

http://www.solarham.net/cmewatch2.htm

There is simply no conventional way to explain the monster super sonic shockwave seen in the solar wind when Ison's debye shield popped. When I 1st saw it I thought it was a CME shock wave, i.e from an object a million times more massive than Earth and 100 times the scale, but no! a 2km comet did it!

While conventional fanatics will hold onto their gravity universe beliefs forever, this event will convert another truck load of the younger more open minded scientists to EU.

I'm sure thunderbolts are gonna do a big investigation into Ison.

Nice point.

It’s just gravity driven “out gassing” via “tidal forces”; or so. The only time the significance of powerful electrodynamic forces unleashed by way of comets interacting with the Sun is mentioned is in official doomsday scenarios such as this one (here). That, the safety of astronauts and satellites are the only times cosmic electrodynamics is taken seriously.

To then posit electrodynamic forces as operative in the cosmos gets you thrown out of the room yet; the fear of the effects of same is more than evident. The contrast effectively reveals a stunning head-in-sand mentality with regard to astrophysical cosmology.

There exist ideas to build “Sheilds” for electrodynamic protection or, “Dyson Sphere” – like “megastructures” to utilize the prodigious electrodynamic output. Or maybe more Project West Ford type ideas. We simply never hear of the constant countermeasures enacted to protect people and equipment from electrodynamic forces in space.

But don’t dare say electrical puissance is also a fundamental cause of observed (and measured) cosmic dynamics. That just makes you a “crank” talkin’ a bunch of “pseudoscience” but excuse us while we simultaneously use these forces to try and predict "space weather" see. Well, as a result of this comet, I’m having one of those moments watching mice run ‘round the gravity wheel bewildered as to why the cage isn’t moving; again.

[meemoe_uk]

Hi All, that link to that solar wind shockwave has been cast in doubt.



People are saying it was a strange false artefact deliberately planted into the model by NASA.
If that makes no sense to you, that's because it doesn't.


Why would NASA do that? Haven't a clue.

Anyway, I've been looking to see if there's any other sign of the shockwave in other observation data, so far no luck. So can't rule out this crazy NASA false artefact story.

Time will straighten stuff out. These things happen when reporting critical events, often turns out the measurement was wrong or something and the wrong conclusion was drawn.

[meemoe_uk]

NOAA and NASA both have shockwaves coming off the sun, but NOAA has the shock wave emitted well after Ison perihelion

http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWeb ... gnetId=261

SIDC CACTUS recorded a notable CME within 1 hour of Ison's perihelion. Then a much larger one at 21:13
http://www.sidc.oma.be/cactus/out/latestCMEs.html

CME#, date,...............min velocity, max velocity.
0030|2013/11/28 21:13| 02 | 013| 008| 0947| 0257| 0603| 1265|
0029|2013/11/28 19:24| 01 | 293| 016| 0624| 0003| 0624| 0630|

I don't know how to read the position data in the middle.

Over all its looking fuzzy whether or not these CMEs were related to Ison.
Need to know their position.

[Solar]

Hi All, that link to that solar wind shockwave has been cast in doubt.



People are saying it was a strange false artefact deliberately planted into the model by NASA.
If that makes no sense to you, that's because it doesn't.


Why would NASA do that? Haven't a clue.

The pages that you are viewing are *ALL* models. The nature of a model is to "deliberately plant" either estimated and/or measured data into the model to see potential results. That is the nature of trying to "predict" the effects of space weather. The very first link you referenced "WSA-Enlil Solar Wind Prediction, just below the run time graphics it says "About the Model".

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[Rosphere]

...NOAA has the shock wave emitted well after Ison perihelion...

1. I have often noticed, while watching SOHO videos, that a CME will always emerge from the sun some short time after a comet has taken a plunge into the opposite side.

2. The same thing happened some short time after comet ISON passed perihelion. But this time, the CME seemed to sweep out in a clockwise fashion on the LASCO C3 viewer. It was quite beautiful.

Has anyone else noticed both of these points?

Have the EU scholars ever made note of my first point and, if so, can someone please provide a link?

Thank you,
Rosphere

[madkevo]

And nothing happened hooray!

Hi all,
so, we're due to pass through the dust trail left by the inbound ISON in mid January. From what I understand of the Electric Comet the coma and tail are full of ionised particles which will I guess form a trail (of plasma?) from our magnetosphere to really really close to the sun. Should we be concerned about this ? Hoping to hear some reassuring words here!
@Moderators, please move to separate topic, or delete this post for that matter, if appropriate.
All the best
Kevin.

[Sparky]

Have the EU scholars ever made note of my first point and, if so, can someone please provide a link?

No link...sorry....but , there seems to be an association between comets and cme's..

My un-scholarly view is that the comet is part of a circuit, conducting electricity from outer solar system to the sun...Evidenced by the ion tails and observed magnetic traces found , possibly from the passing of a comet....

[nick c]

There has been mention of it in a TPOD or two and I think in one of the Holoscience "News and Views."
I do not have a link, but perhaps a search will turn it up.
My understanding is that the comet impinges upon the Sun's double layer(s) causing a release of energy in the form of a solar flare or CME. The process is purely electrical as a comet's mass vis a vis the Sun's mass is miniscule, hence the refusal of mainstream to acknowledge any connection between the two.