Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

[starbiter]

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Did you overlook these comments ?

9-11-11

Besides gold, there's a lot of copper in them thar hills, so the blue-green is probably from relatively fresh oxides....
Nevada Bureau of Mines has a large trove of free maps showing mines, deposits, terrains, and the many crustal fractures & outcrops, making the area so rich in Minerals.

9-12-11

...it appears more likely that the blue-green sheen {edit: for That location by the lake that was under discussion, photos were provided} is from (Mineral-loving?) vegetation.

10-01-11

As you point out above, nascent Mineral content would also be exposed on the fresh canyon walls.

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Hello again Seasmith: So, are we in agreement that the blue cliffs in the link below are rock and not vegetation?

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UT ... 5,70.526,0

If that's the case, it must be obvious to You that the bluish color in the drainage is the result of water dissolving whatever it is that causes the blue color, not vegetation. The pattern of BLUENESS, not green, is circular. I asked before, can You see the roundish blue pattern, without blue in the center?

http://g.co/maps/g5nuz

The dark blue areas seem to be the areas that were above the waterline when the area was flooded.

The areas that are flat in the map below would have been submerged during the zapping. The area just South of Hoover Dam would also have been submerged. The sediments south of the Dam were probably washed away by the river.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=35 ... 10&vpsrc=6

If these bluish areas are caused by minerals in rock, might other blue areas that seem like cliffs also be from the minerals in rock? If there is vegetation in the area that seems blue on the Google map, this might be from the blue minerals in the rock being absorbed by the plants. The point is, the blue color starts with blue rock and soil, not vegetation.

In an Electric Universe, the roundish blue area North of Searchlight seems like a plasma remnant to me, unless someone has a better explanation. I was told by a EU insider at the NPA conference that the area is a volcano. I was also told that i see everything with EU glasses. This is why i looked at the area again. Does anyone want to claim the roundish blue area North of Searchlight, and what surrounds it, is a volcano? Or anything else for that matter.

michael

[starbiter]

The map below shows one of the most intense blue/green areas. It's within the B/G circle North of Searchlight. The surface looks scorched.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UT ... oramio.all

It's easy to move the map around.

If you zoom out to about 2 mile scale and switch to satellite the color is enhanced. The amount of vegetation doesn't seem to be a factor. I keep looking. Zoom back in to see vegetation. The original map shows the bushes clearly.

This location seems to produce the B/G dye that runs through the drainage. The rock is volcanic. I believe the rock is considered metamorphic. The map link supplied by Seasmith refers to the area as undifferentiated volcanic.

http://www.nbmg.unr.edu/dox/b62/B62%20P ... TE%201.pdf

This seems to mean dates are difficult to determine. It also might imply metamorphic.

Most of the B/G circle is undifferentiated volcanic. The map above certainly looks like something external occurred, to my EU eyes.

michael

[starbiter]

The map below shows what a volcano looks like. I drove by but was afraid to stop. The Mexican police looked scared to death, and they had assault rifles. It's easy to see the multiple lava flows in many directions. I see very little erosion.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UT ... 54324&z=13

This is very different looking than area North of Searchlight.

michael

[starbiter]

What appears to be an extremely high waterline during the events that created the mountains of the western US has bothered me from the beginning of my study. The water should have drained away, but it appears to have lingered during the duning, mountain formation process.

The equatorial bulge is 13.25 miles high at the equator. The measurement would need to to done at sea level, for consistency. The equator travels West to East at about 1,000 miles per hour. As the distance to the poles decreases, the rotation decreases. At 45 degrees N the speed would be 500 MPH. There would be half as much centrifugal force. The bulge would decrease as the rotational speed decreases.

In Worlds in Collision it claims that prior to the events with Venus the Sun rose in the East. Then due to a change in Earth's polarity the Sun rose in the West, and then the East again. If the Earth ceased to rotate during the change of rotation process the waters would rush towards the poles. During the change from an E to W sunrise the waters would also rush towards the E. A remnant of this should be visible. It is. If you look at the map below please notice the 1,800 M area. Then zoom out. Everything below 1,800 M is covered with slurry runoff. The mountains above 1,800 M are crisp showing the pattern of duning. Even the valleys between the mountains were flooded to 1,800 M.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=51 ... 13&vpsrc=6

As you zoom out it's obvious the slurry runoff covered dune/mountains E of the 1,800 M line. These covered mountains are in the same alignment as the crisp, uncovered mountains to the W. This slurry runoff process over mountains would naturally produce anticlines and synclines.

The W side of the mountain range shows the same pattern and depth. Find the 1,800 M level and zoom out.

http://g.co/maps/8ybqp

http://g.co/maps/8ynma

It appears to me that the water level was 5,900' during the process of slurry runoff.

In the map of CO below the slurry line seems to be over 7,000'

http://g.co/maps/rfvfq

The Pacific coast doesn't show the same pattern.

http://g.co/maps/zj9qv

The water there was free to move W while the Earth was breaking. This would be the last event, when the sunrise was going from W to E. The last event would be what is visible on the surface. Dr Velikovsky thought this last reversal was during the Mars Earth events.

This is not in cement. I'm still trying to make sense of all this. It seems the little things mentioned in WiC can answer most of the problems. It's a matter of considering the consequences of the descriptions.


While thinking about these issues it struck me that for every 1,000 miles traveled from N to S, in the northern hemisphere, there is a gain in height of 5,700', if measured from the center of Earth. Sea level is not level. The Mississippi River travels about 1,000 miles from St Paul to the gulf. It drops about 800', using sea level. So when measured from the center of Earth the river rises about 4,900'. The water is drawn S, up hill.

michael

[starbiter]

A friend sent me the correction below. It refers to the last post. If i have a choice of trusting my friend or myself i lose. The friend was wrong once.

Friend,
[...]
Because the Earth is round, distance from the axis doesn't decrease linearly, therefore circumference doesn't, therefore rotation speed doesn't. At 45 degrees latitude, speed is about 740 mph.
>
>Just offhand, I don't know where the "unchanged" point would be between sea level at present & sea level on a non-rotating globe. Somewhere poleward of 45 degrees.

Me again,
It's hard to know the details. Looking at Google maps in terrain mode allows a certain amount of speculation. There appears to have been lots of dust, wind, sloshing, and zapping. At an unknown time.

michael

[KimGifford]

Hey Michael-

I understand you're planning to lead a field-trip following the Electric Universe Conference in January?
I thought you might want the conference information posted here for whoever would like to attend both the three-day event as well as the field-trip you're going to be hosting afterwards. I'll just paste it below:

Electric Universe Conference to Kick Off January 6 in Las Vegas
Annual Gathering Debuts with The Human Story
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We have chosen as our symbol for the conference the primordial cosmic thunderbolt: Sanskrit [vajra], Tibetan [dorje], and Japanese [kongō]. We did so because, as a matter of record, it is this enigmatic “weapon of the gods” that bridges ancient worlds and the leading edge of plasma science.

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[starbiter]

Thanks Kim: Instead of me leading a field trip it's more like a friend on vacation trying to see the duning and slurry runoff. Another friend or two, or who knows, will tag along. Me two. Everyone is invited. Hecklers are welcome. It should be easy to show the flaws of the model.

I'll try to help anyone with logistics. I know the area pretty well. I know how to find safe bargains.

In a short period of time the whole process should be made clear.

My friend will arrive a week early for a preconference look. Then a trip after the conference. The trip will continue for the rest of my life.

Weather in the Winter is dicey. The weather in the southern deserts is usually nice, but there are storms. We will try to avoid bad weather. It's hard to see without Sun light.

We plan to visit the Yucca Valley after the conference. Just North of Palm Springs. In two or three days the difference between slurry runoff and duning should be obvious.


Thanks for all your hard work on the conference Kim. That goes for the rest of the team.

Try to come along for some of the journey if You can. You can heckel me. It would be fun.

michael

[starbiter]

I just stumbled on this image of Venus. The patterns are very different than the surface of Earth. Venus surface is filamentary.

Earths surface is not filamentary. Water erosion during catastrophic conditions seems to be a major factor on Earth. With multiple zapping events.

The dark areas of Venus have features that resemble petroglyphs in places. Zoom in please. Upper left is a good place.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _globe.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus The link came from Wiki

This TPOD shows patterns on Europa that seem similar to the patterns on Venus.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... europa.htm

michael

[GaryN]

Hi Michael,
I was looking at this article in Scientific American:
Afghanistan's Buried Riches

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ied-riches
I went to my library and looked at the full page image, and I can think of no
standard explanation for the formation of the landscape. If it was ancient, the
ridges should all have been rounded off. This to me must be electrical, and all
the riches found there from electrical transmutation.
There is a larger image in this pdf file, but the one in the magazine is hi-res.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=a ... AJNckBgdgg
Just wondered about duning in this case?

[starbiter]

Hi Michael,
I was looking at this article in Scientific American:
Afghanistan's Buried Riches

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ied-riches
I went to my library and looked at the full page image, and I can think of no
standard explanation for the formation of the landscape. If it was ancient, the
ridges should all have been rounded off. This to me must be electrical, and all
the riches found there from electrical transmutation.
There is a larger image in this pdf file, but the one in the magazine is hi-res.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=a ... AJNckBgdgg
Just wondered about duning in this case?

Hello Gary: I'm trying to answer You without using the word dune. I've failed miserably. The formation looks like the result of duning to me. Duning creates ridges.

The rare earth elements could be the result of electrical sorting and concentration of dust, or transmutation as You suggest. I would be surprised if the rock is not metamorphic. If it is metamorphic, electrical heating and squeezing would be my first guess as the cause. Not the magic elevator. The article doesn't mention the type of rock.

duney

[starbiter]

It seems the rare earth elements are found in Carbonatite.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2011/1244/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonatite

[...]
Most carbonatites tend to include some silicate mineral fraction; by definition an igneous rock containing >50% carbonate minerals is classified as a carbonatite. Silicate minerals associated with such compositions are pyroxene, olivine, and silica-undersaturated minerals such as nepheline and other feldspathoids.

me again,
This could be comet dust.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/deepi ... 90705.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=5UUm7b ... ne&f=false

If the dust was zapped it would be misconstrued as volcanic.

In Tanzania a volcano erupts Carbonatite. This could be comet dust that is melted during volcanic activity. This seems more logical than shells and skeletons as the source of the carbonates.

michael

[starbiter]

Hi Gary, the link below might help You understand all this dune stuff. You can zoom out for perspective. Full screen works best. F11


http://g.co/maps/z86re

The dunes in the image were probably formed under less extreme conditions than the dune/mountain just to the East of the map image. The ridges of the dune have ridges, just like the mountain.

The image below is looking North, from South of the dunes. Please download for the ability to zoom in.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... i&hl=en_US


The ridges with ridges are quite clear on the left side of the image below.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 3&hl=en_US

The shot below adds scale. There are people sitting just right of center.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 5&hl=en_US

This image below shows chains forming.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-GyNP ... 4&hl=en_US

These patterns remind me of the Afgan mountains You posted about. I hope You can see it. Maybe You need to see it in person.

The process with the dunes above probably had less flooding, than the more catastrophic mountain/dunes.

michael

[starbiter]

The map below shows the area in Afghanistan with the rare earth elements.

http://g.co/maps/d77z5

Because of the round shape it appears to be a thunderbolt remnant to me. If You zoom out to 50 mile scale there is a yin yang pattern surrounding the central round area. Surrounding the yin yang feature, the area might be covered with basalt. The elevated areas look dark.

This might explain the rare earth elements. They could have been attracted to the giant discharge, especially if the air was choked with dust, either from Earth, Venus, or Mars. There might have been enough energy for transmutation, as Gary suggested.

michael

[GaryN]

Hi Michael,
Looking at your latest link, that area of Afghanistan does look like a
large electrical blister. The current flow would be pulsed DC, and this
is where I think resonance fusion enters the picture. High voltage is not
a requirement for this process, so it could have been due to a sustained
proton flux, neutron catalysis, crystal resonance, but I'm just speculating
here.
I hadn't zoomed out far enough to see the feature from that perspective,
but altitude can make a big difference to the perceived causal
processes. This is from an area around one of your previous links:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.08558 ... 12&vpsrc=6
Here I think I see the scalloped evidence of an electrical discharge along one side of
the ridge, and on the other side I would see an upwards flow resulting in the
wide fans and bowls. The great turmoil of forces occurring in such events might
muddy the waters of trying to pin down the exact processes too, but whatever happened,
I'm hoping it doesn't happen again soon! Interesting posts Michael.

[starbiter]

The image in the link below shows "The Horrible Black". There area is probably very metamorphic. That would be my bet.

http://g.co/maps/bn3x5

This area certainly looks zapped. It's much better full screen.

http://g.co/maps/sxr7v

If You look at the map below with the marker as the center, in full screen, it reminds me of a galaxy or a hurricane. The different color in the swirls are different types of current attracting different types and colors of in coming dust. This would be at the very end of the catastrophic process. It's on the outside. Probably Mars in the Worlds in Collision sense.

The agent doesn't matter. The date doesn't matter. The sequence in this case matters. This was the last thing. At least in terms of material being added. This seems to have covered the area. I suppose the current could have changed/transmutated the material in situ. Some areas more zapped than others. Or different types of zap.

This is best seen in a completely dark room. It really matters.

http://g.co/maps/ezpuz

This seems very violent. The photographs show some areas more zapped than others. If You click on photos it is very productive. I suppose the US is paying for people to fly over the area with digital cameras.

At at the very center there are rare earth elements. And lots of minerals.

michael

Hello Gary: The shapes in your last post look like the result of simple duning. I don't think it's real complicated. There is an electrical component involved with duning, IMHO. But the process is basically wind blown dust being interrupted by an obstacle, a ridge. It's much more complicated, but that is the basic process, again, IMHO.

I can't really comment on your resonance fusion position. I do see patterns of high energy plasma events on the surface of Earth. Thanks Google maps. I hope the new Microsoft version of Maps is even better,