Huge 'Black Hole' found

IgorTesla · Unread post by **IgorTesla** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:29 am

A dark day for science and human kind as 'scientist' discover the biggest black hole in the universe :

http://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-press/27 ... ected-size

Full of assumptions without true knowledge, feels like a step back into the dark ages ...

IgorTesla · Unread post by **IgorTesla** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:15 am

A quote from the aboved mentioned article :
"In ordinary galaxies the black hole would grow at the same rate as the galaxy, but in SAGE0536AGN the black hole has grown much faster, or the galaxy stopped growing prematurely."

Seriously ?!
They just invented a new 'scientific' term to discribe an observed phenomena : premature stopping of the growth of an entire galaxy !

How far are they willing to go before they realize that their words are not science but fantasy ...

Metryq · Unread post by **Metryq** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:45 am

IgorTesla wrote:How far are they willing to go before they realize that their words are not science but fantasy ...

A long way, apparently. When "math is truth," one no longer needs to count a horse's teeth. One can deduce how many it has. Mainstream astrophysics invents new mechanisms out of whole cloth, rather than testing more "mundane" known physics against the observed phenomena first.

Neutron stars are one of my favorite examples. The concept violates known nuclear chemistry, but such imaginary ultra-dense matter is needed to "explain" how a pulsar can rotate at such high speeds without blowing itself apart. It never occurred to mainstream astrophysicists that "spinning" may not be the solution to the problem. Electronics was certainly well known at the time neutron stars were proposed, but most never considered the possibility of naturally-occurring electronic circuits. If nuclear fission reactors can occur from natural processes, why not electrical circuits? Charge is one of the most fundamental aspects of all matter, and electrical effects can be observed at all scales of the universe.

Playing Hide & Seek

JeffreyW · Unread post by **JeffreyW** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:06 am

Black holes belong in the mad ideas category.

Why was it moved to "Electric Universe"?

Unread post by **nick c** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:45 am

Black holes belong in the mad ideas category.

Why was it moved to "Electric Universe"?

Discussion of black holes is an EU topic. Thornhill, Scott, and numerous TPOD's cover the subject of black holes. Your confusion stems from your interpretation that the original post supports the notion of the reality of black holes.
Mainstream thinks they have found an extraordinarily large black hole. So the question is then; what have they actually found? What is the electrical explanation? Are black holes even possible? and so on....

D_Archer · Unread post by **D_Archer** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:44 am

nick c wrote:
Black holes belong in the mad ideas category.

Why was it moved to "Electric Universe"?
Discussion of black holes is an EU topic. Thornhill, Scott, and numerous TPOD's cover the subject of black holes. Your confusion stems from your interpretation that the original post supports the notion of the reality of black holes.
Mainstream thinks they have found an extraordinarily large black hole. So the question is then; what have they actually found? What is the electrical explanation? Are black holes even possible? and so on....

The sad part is that they have not found anything.

Regards,
Daniel

BronzeDragon · Unread post by **BronzeDragon** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:55 pm

Well, of course they haven't found one. A black hole is black. And the color of space, your basic space color, is black. So how are they supposed to see them?

IgorTesla · Unread post by **IgorTesla** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:21 am

Unfortuantly the Dutch media is full of propaganda lately

Now they propagate that there has been proof of liquid water on mars.
(I watched that video and i can only confrim that it's surely NO water, due to it's irradic behaviour)
And now they take it a step further by planning ahead for manned missions to mars since there has to be life of some sorts, as the result of finding water on mars.

Funny thing though, if the EU therory will proof to be right then they are in for an electrifying treat. Navigating through plasma will undoubtingly cause catastrofic events to human beings as they neglect the connectivity of electical circuits in space. (everyone knows you should not connect the powerlines for trains to their tracks. that will cause a catastrophic event)

Perhaps we just all should support NASA/ESA and hopefully the 'scientist' will step aboard their spaceships and never be heard of again, paving the way for true science ...

celeste · Unread post by **celeste** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:51 pm

nick c wrote:
Mainstream thinks they have found an extraordinarily large black hole. So the question is then; what have they actually found? What is the electrical explanation? Are black holes even possible? and so on....

Nick, Do you see the mistake they have made here http://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-press/27 ... ected-size
Once again they interpret all redshift as Doppler redshift. So when they see that spectral line broadening, they think it is from rotation. Basically, if we did have rapid rotation of gas around a black hole, then the spectral lines should be broadened.

What they are not considering is this http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jamp/2011/850807/
We should have line broadening if there is a dense plasma at galactic centers.

IgorTesla · Unread post by **IgorTesla** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:20 pm

The best proof of the existence of a black hole was in front of our own eyes all the time.
At last we have figured it all out !
We forgot to look at the pictures in negative contrast. When doing so a tremendous amount of black holes are seen everywhere around us even in our own sun ...

(sarcasm off)

Frantic · Unread post by **Frantic** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:36 am

I assumed their re-release of, hey we found water on Mars was just to hype the movie "The Martian" But it is in the Dutch Media as well? I assume The Martian is not being released there right?

IgorTesla · Unread post by **IgorTesla** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:29 am

Frantic wrote:I assumed their re-release of, hey we found water on Mars was just to hype the movie "The Martian" But it is in the Dutch Media as well? I assume The Martian is not being released there right?

Somehow the Dutch media seems to be getting information from the highest levels in main stream science. This is due to the fact that we (the dutch) had several people involved in NASA projects and we even send astronauts on space shuttle missions (Lodewijk van den Berg, Wubbo Ockels and André Kuipers).
Sadly this resulted in a narrowminded group of people who feed the media with their obsolete theories and fantasies such as black holes, dark matter, dark energy, god particle etc...
Gravity is still the base of all explanations and our universities do not allow development of any theories that will contradict them. Although many will say it is possible since we are a so called 'free' country, it's impossible to be taken seriously when presenting the EU theory for example.

And for the movie you mentioned : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/
It seems like it is released AND with dutch subtitles. I haven't seen the movie and i doubt i will.

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