by Open Mind » Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:07 pm
johnm33 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:54 pm
it is a function of electric charge
I suspect it's something to do with the tension between the ionosphere and the altered distribution of protons near the core, so in some way due to the voltage gradient to earth that increases as you rise through the atmosphere, I guess a test would be to earth out a suspended copper ring/web large enough to act as an umbrella to the force and see if there was a loss of weight in it's 'shade'.
I disagree about expansion though, I've gone from thinking it a ridiculous idea to accepting it as the simplest explanation for many otherwise difficult to explain geological artifacts.
Trouble is that on balance I think it a very recent phenomenon, maybe all happening in 'bursts' in the last 60-80,000 or so years, plus I doubt it's over.
I have a hard time not thinking this as well. Just since our most recent big cataclysm, the Younger Dryas, it seems there are so many examples of animals that DID survive, but in a smaller version of themselves. That seems too recent to presume its a very slow process that happens over millions of years, and just by coincidence, we just recently has a big leap, so recently timed.
I do consider the possibility that animal scale might have a considerable lag, and oversized animals can continue to exist in a less optimized gravitational environment. I think about this as one reason for the consideration of the "Blitzkreig" theory of overkill of the mammoths. If they're the largest animals at the time of a gravitational change, then it seems they'll slow down, become less effective at self defense, and along with the shrinking of their plant food, will become noticeably more vulnerable to predation. I've never bothered to research the Blitzkreig theory, because its always been suggested it was simply a poor theory, that has no legs, but just in case it does have 'some' corroborating evidence to substantiate it, then a gravitational change would explain it partially at least because the size remains after the change, but the animal suffers as a less optimized scale for the present gravity.
But if this discussion raises a mechanism of an instantaneous adaptation down to the fundamental DNA change, then it wouldn't make sense that kind of change wouldn't be instantaneous, driven by that gravity change, so I don't know what makes more sense. But WITH a lag, it would substantiate all the ancient myths of 'giants'. Maybe a lag is possible, but its so short in geological time spans, its still very quick, but long enough to influence impactfully in the historical experience of man.
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[quote]it is a function of electric charge[/quote]
I suspect it's something to do with the tension between the ionosphere and the altered distribution of protons near the core, so in some way due to the voltage gradient to earth that increases as you rise through the atmosphere, I guess a test would be to earth out a suspended copper ring/web large enough to act as an umbrella to the force and see if there was a loss of weight in it's 'shade'.
I disagree about expansion though, I've gone from thinking it a ridiculous idea to accepting it as the simplest explanation for many otherwise difficult to explain geological artifacts. [b]Trouble is that on balance I think it a very recent phenomenon, maybe all happening in 'bursts' in the last 60-80,000 or so years, plus I doubt it's over.[/b]
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I have a hard time not thinking this as well. Just since our most recent big cataclysm, the Younger Dryas, it seems there are so many examples of animals that DID survive, but in a smaller version of themselves. That seems too recent to presume its a very slow process that happens over millions of years, and just by coincidence, we just recently has a big leap, so recently timed.
I do consider the possibility that animal scale might have a considerable lag, and oversized animals can continue to exist in a less optimized gravitational environment. I think about this as one reason for the consideration of the "Blitzkreig" theory of overkill of the mammoths. If they're the largest animals at the time of a gravitational change, then it seems they'll slow down, become less effective at self defense, and along with the shrinking of their plant food, will become noticeably more vulnerable to predation. I've never bothered to research the Blitzkreig theory, because its always been suggested it was simply a poor theory, that has no legs, but just in case it does have 'some' corroborating evidence to substantiate it, then a gravitational change would explain it partially at least because the size remains after the change, but the animal suffers as a less optimized scale for the present gravity.
But if this discussion raises a mechanism of an instantaneous adaptation down to the fundamental DNA change, then it wouldn't make sense that kind of change wouldn't be instantaneous, driven by that gravity change, so I don't know what makes more sense. But WITH a lag, it would substantiate all the ancient myths of 'giants'. Maybe a lag is possible, but its so short in geological time spans, its still very quick, but long enough to influence impactfully in the historical experience of man.