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And what are the names for the quasars?
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BBC Sky at Night presenter Patrick Moore CBE (1923-2012) interviewed Dr. Halton Arp (1927-2013) in May 1988.
"A Sky at Night broadcast on May 14th 1988 about Quasars. The only time that the controversial cosmologist Halton Arp appeared on the programme. Arp was a respected astronomer and known for his Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies, but in the 1980s he was almost ex-communicated by pro astronomers for suggesting that Quasar redshifts were not indicative of their great distance, but due to some other reason. As a result of his views he was unable to work in the US any more, but worked in Germany. Despite Arp's renegade status, Patrick, a bit of a renegade himself (re. lunar crater origins) was happy to give him air time on The Sky at Night, to outline his views on Quasars."
A classic episode.
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