Galaxies ARE Electric!

Plasma and electricity in space. Failure of gravity-only cosmology. Exposing the myths of dark matter, dark energy, black holes, neutron stars, and other mathematical constructs. The electric model of stars. Predictions and confirmations of the electric comet.

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Cargo
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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Cargo » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:53 pm

That's really strange. I'm pretty sure I posted a comment to this thread earlier.
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:18 pm

The spiral galaxy at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy

https://phys.org/news/2019-06-magnetic- ... -hole.html

"These results give unprecedented information about the strong magnetic field at the center of the Milky Way galaxy."

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Cargo » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:27 pm

Ahha, that's right I did. I spoke of the Time Life book from the 70's, where it's made quite clear that Space is 99.9% Plasma. They've know it for decades.

No, it was the 60's. Here it is http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... f=5&t=3724
"Plasma, then, is a swarming mass of hot, electrically charged particles
-free electrons carrying a negative charge, and positively charged ions,
the whole being electrically neutral."
"The raw material of stars
Plasma pervades the universe in various degrees of concentration. It
is the raw material of which the stars are made, and it fills the space
between all celestial bodies with a thin matrix that throbs and pulsates
with strange waves and currents. Except in stars, its consistency is thin-
ner than any vacuum that man has been able to create on earth.
Despite the fierceness associated with its fiery temperature, plasma
is almost too delicate to exist in this cold and narrow corner of the uni-
verse we call earth. Here it is usually found only in such inhospitable
places as the heart of lightning bolts, the aurora borealis, and in electric
arcs."
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:12 am

Towering balloon-like structures discovered near center of the Milky Way

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-towering- ... milky.html

"The Galactic Centre contains a supermassive black hole with a mass of four million Suns within an environment that differs markedly from that of the Galactic disk. Although the black hole is essentially quiescent in the broader context of active galactic nuclei, X-ray observations have provided evidence for energetic outbursts from its surroundings. Also, although the levels of star formation in the Galactic Centre have been approximately constant over the past few hundred million years, there is evidence of increased short-duration bursts, strongly influenced by the interaction of the black hole with the enhanced gas density present within the ring-like central molecular zone at Galactic longitude |l| < 0.7 degrees and latitude |b| < 0.2 degrees. The inner 200-parsec region is characterized by large amounts of warm molecular gas, a high cosmic-ray ionization rate, unusual gas chemistry, enhanced synchrotron emission and a multitude of radio-emitting magnetized filaments, the origin of which has not been established. Here we report radio imaging that reveals a bipolar bubble structure, with an overall span of 1 degree by 3 degrees (140 parsecs × 430 parsecs), extending above and below the Galactic plane and apparently associated with the Galactic Centre. The structure is edge-brightened and bounded, with symmetry implying creation by an energetic event in the Galactic Centre. We estimate the age of the bubbles to be a few million years, with a total energy of 7 × 1052 ergs. We postulate that the progenitor event was a major contributor to the increased cosmic-ray density in the Galactic Centre, and is in turn the principal source of the relativistic particles required to power the synchrotron emission of the radio filaments within and in the vicinity of the bubble cavities".

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1532-5

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Sci-Phy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:09 am

Robertus Maximus wrote: The problem however is that electricity is the mainstream version of Voldemort from Harry Potter fame.
That's exactly what it is.
I think electric theory is least developed theory in physics.
Electricity, magnetism, heat and gravity are by-product of aether movement.

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Electrodynamic » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Cargo
"Plasma, then, is a swarming mass of hot, electrically charged particles
-free electrons carrying a negative charge, and positively charged ions,
the whole being electrically neutral."
I would agree and I believe part of the perceptual problem may relate to the term "neutral". Plasma should never be truly neutral because there are opposite charges which when immersed in a magnetic field move in opposite directions ie, the Lorentz force. As such if there were a plasma flow exposed to large magnetic fields one would think the flow would diverge or split because the Lorentz force does not act on flows or objects it acts on individual charges within them.

I see many non-EU people exaggerating the usage of the term "neutral" and I believe it relates to psychology and thermodynamics where some still believe things are somehow consumed or used up.

It's a very interesting topic and when I think about this stuff my mind starts racing imagining all the possible practical applications yet to be conceived. Advanced Electric field and plasma science would seem to be the new frontier in my opinion. Exciting times.

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:10 am

"It's surprising that any galaxy can change its look on human time scales."

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-captures- ... tions.html

"Theory suggests that a quasar should take thousands of years to turn on, but these observations suggest that it can happen very quickly. It tells us that the theory is all wrong."

The theory is all wrong, let me guess more- missing dark energy matter- needed?

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:29 am

Counter-rotation observations of NGC 1068 (M77)

https://newatlas.com/space/galaxy-ngc10 ... e-mystery/
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3 ... 213/ab3c64

"...we identify three kinematically distinct regions: (1) an outflow component apparent in emission on the HCN position-velocity diagram and detected as a blueshifted wing in absorption against the nuclear continuum source, with projected out flow speeds approaching 450 kms1; (2) an inner disk spanning 0:5 <r <1:2 pc; and (3) an outer disk extending to r = 7 pc. The two disks counter-rotate...Imanishi et al. (2018) demonstrated that the outer disk of the parsec-scale molecular torus also counter-rotates with respect to the molecular ring at 100 pc scales and, we note, the sense of rotation of the galactic disk on kiloparsec scales..."

Captured satellite dwarf galaxy or Birkeland currents?

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by The Great Dog » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:45 am

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/0 ... t-streams/
Recently, astronomers from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics announced that our own Milky Way galaxy is expelling enormous jets of gamma rays from a putative supermassive black hole residing in its nucleus. In 2010, twin funnels of gamma ray emissions were detected above and below the galactic plane, measuring 65,000 light-years in diameter.
Explaining the jets of ionized particles often seen erupting from various galaxies and quasars ranks as one of the most difficult tasks facing modern astronomers. What force can create highly energetic particle emissions that span distances measured in light-years? What confines them into narrow beams? The prevailing theory of “compacted gravitational point sources” exciting gas and dust as they orbit does not address the existence of collimated jets. There is only one force that can hold such a matter stream together over those distances: magnetism.

The only way to generate that magnetic confinement is through electricity flowing through space.
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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Cargo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:47 pm

It's so obvious, it's painful to watch them twist and contort to hold on to gravity central.
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:35 pm

Why are distant galaxies moving in unison?

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/zmj7 ... structures

"...scientists have noticed that some galaxies move together in odd and often unexplained patterns, as if they are connected by a vast unseen force."

A vast unseen force, I wonder what that could be...

"For instance, a study published in The Astrophysical Journal in October found that hundreds of galaxies were rotating in sync with the motions of galaxies that were tens of millions of light years away.

“This discovery is quite new and unexpected,” said lead author Joon Hyeop Lee, an astronomer at the Korea Astronomy and Space Science Institute, in an email. “I have never seen any previous report of observations or any prediction from numerical simulations, exactly related to this phenomenon.”

"Lee and his colleagues studied 445 galaxies within 400 million light years of Earth, and noticed that many of the ones rotating in a direction toward Earth had neighbors that were moving toward Earth, while those that were rotating in the opposite direction had neighbors moving away from Earth.

“The observed coherence must have some relationship with large-scale structures, because it is impossible that the galaxies separated by six megaparsecs [roughly 20 million light years] directly interact with each other,” Lee said.

"Lee and his colleagues suggest that the synchronized galaxies may be embedded along the same large-scale structure, which is very slowly rotating in a counter-clockwise direction. That underlying dynamic could cause the kind of coherence between the rotation of the studied galaxies and the motions of their neighbors, though he cautioned that it will take a lot more research to corroborate his team’s findings and conclusions.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3 ... 357/ab3fa3

"This discovery “suggests that something is wrong with standard cosmological simulations,”"

Somewhat of an understatement I'd say, perhaps the consensus view of the universe is wrong?

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Roshi » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:09 am

Rule 1: "There is no electricity in space, because space is not a copper wire, so it cannot conduct electricity!"

This is what mainstream says right now. It's amazing that they accept there are galactic size magnetic fields in space. What could cause them? "We do not want to talk about that, see Rule 1" says mainstream.

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:56 am

Astronomers Spot Huge Magnetic Structures in ‘Whale Galaxy’

http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/magne ... 07849.html
https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.07590

“This is the first time that we have clearly detected what astronomers call large-scale, coherent, magnetic fields far in the halo of a spiral galaxy, with the field lines aligned in the same direction over distances of a thousand light-years,” said Dr. Marita Krause, an astronomer with the Max-Planck Institute for Radioastronomy.

“We even see a regular pattern of this organized field changing direction.”


So far, so good. But what could cause such large-scale magnetic fields? Birkeland Currents?

The new image of NGC 4631 indicates a large-scale, coherent magnetic field that is generated by dynamo action within the galaxy and spirals far outward in the form of giant magnetic ropes perpendicular to the disk.

No, it's that hidden dynamo again! Those "giant magnetic ropes" everywhere are just a red-herring...

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:20 am

Hoag's Object

"Hoag's Object Is a Galaxy Within a Galaxy Within a Galaxy (and Nobody Knows Why)"

https://www.space.com/hoags-object-perf ... stery.html

Ancient cosmic crash or highly evolved spiral galaxy?

https://www.electricuniverse.info/wp-co ... on-512.gif

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Re: Galaxies ARE Electric!

Unread post by Xuxalina Rihhia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:28 pm

There are NO black holes in the center of galaxies or anyplace in the universe. What you will find in the middle of any galaxy or quasar is a donut-shaped hot plasmoid. That was what was imaged in M87, not a mythical black hole.

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