The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

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The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:47 am

If you're interested in understanding the rotational curves of galaxies, I *highly* recommend watching this relatively short video on the topic which was done by Dr. Scott. The observed rotational patterns/speeds of galaxies has nothing whatsoever to do with 'dark matter", rather it's a mathematically predictable feature of a universe that is filled with Birkeland currents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdYrgJrBFr0

Anyone that tries to tell you that there is no mathematical support of EU/PC theory is simply ignorant of the facts.

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Unread post by Michael Mozina » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:05 pm

FYI, a second galaxy that seems to rotate perfectly with the need of exotic matter has recently been found, driving yet another nail in the coffin of the LCDM model.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.05973
We conclude that NGC1052-DF2 is not an isolated case but that a class of such objects exists. The origin of these large, faint galaxies with an excess of luminous globular clusters and an apparent lack of dark matter is, at present, not understood.
Emphasis mine. While this recent observation is inconsistent with the LCDM cosmology model, and it remains unexplained by the LCDM model, it is entirely consistent with Dr. Scott's explanation of galaxy rotation patterns being a logical result of current driven processes causing these rotation patterns, rather than the rotation patterns being a result of exotic forms of matter.

The EU/PC model is far superior to the LCDM model, regardless what the mainstream might think.

I strongly encourage Dr. Scott to write a new paper on this topic. I think it demonstrates conclusively that the EU/PC cosmology model is far superior to the LCDM model.

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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by GaryN » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:36 pm

The galaxy rotations are determined by red/blue shift measurements, but a couple of galaxies have been shown by such methods to have the outer arms pointing the wrong way, rotation is in the opposite direction to how it would appear to be. What is going on here and how does that fit with EU models?
A Galaxy Turning Backward?
https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astrono ... g-backward
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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:00 pm

GaryN wrote:The galaxy rotations are determined by red/blue shift measurements, but a couple of galaxies have been shown by such methods to have the outer arms pointing the wrong way, rotation is in the opposite direction to how it would appear to be. What is going on here and how does that fit with EU models?
A Galaxy Turning Backward?
https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astrono ... g-backward
In theory (according to Scott's paper), Birkeland currents can have concentric current rings/ropes, one inside the other, that actually rotate in opposite directions from each other, so I don't see any conflict with his model and galactic spin in any direction.

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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by seasmith » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:23 pm

Michael Mozina wrote:
GaryN wrote:The galaxy rotations are determined by red/blue shift measurements, but a couple of galaxies have been shown by such methods to have the outer arms pointing the wrong way, rotation is in the opposite direction to how it would appear to be. What is going on here and how does that fit with EU models?
A Galaxy Turning Backward?
https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astrono ... g-backward
In theory (according to Scott's paper), Birkeland currents can have concentric current rings/ropes, one inside the other, that actually rotate in opposite directions from each other, so I don't see any conflict with his model and galactic spin in any direction.
Doesn't it depend on which end of the double--layered Birkeland tube we're looking into ?

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Unread post by Michael Mozina » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:51 am

seasmith wrote:
Michael Mozina wrote:
GaryN wrote:The galaxy rotations are determined by red/blue shift measurements, but a couple of galaxies have been shown by such methods to have the outer arms pointing the wrong way, rotation is in the opposite direction to how it would appear to be. What is going on here and how does that fit with EU models?
A Galaxy Turning Backward?
https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astrono ... g-backward
In theory (according to Scott's paper), Birkeland currents can have concentric current rings/ropes, one inside the other, that actually rotate in opposite directions from each other, so I don't see any conflict with his model and galactic spin in any direction.
Doesn't it depend on which end of the double--layered Birkeland tube we're looking into ?
Whether the whole galaxy rotates right or left from the perspective of the observer is definitely dependent on one's viewpoint as you point out, but the rotation direction with respect opening of the arms of the galaxy isn't dependent upon the location of the observer. In other words, the mainstream assumed that the outer arms had to be opening up away from the direction of rotation and trailing behind the rotation process.

Scott's model doesn't require or necessitate that arm opening orientation. The arms of the galaxy could open up in the same direction of the spin orientation of the rest of the galaxy in his model. In fact, different parts of the same galaxy could spin in different directions in his model. Finding a galaxy that rotates in different directions at different radii from the core would actually validate Scott's Birkeland current model and falsify the mainstream model.

If you watch that video, what Scott points out is that his research suggests that the speed of rotation of the whole galaxy, including the outer arms follows a pattern which his model actually "predicts", without any need for exotic forms of matter. EM forces are responsible for that rotation curve in his model, not gravity alone.

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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by seasmith » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:57 pm

∑MM,
Let's not conflate the concepts of CW and CCW spins with the concepts of centrifugal and centripetal forces.
As was pointed out by many, way back when the Bessel Function treatment of Birkeland currents was given Dr Scott by his mathematician friend, that it is a space and time variant mathematical approximation of motions; not the end all and be all of that electric phenomena.

It's common knowledge that here on Earth cyclonic and anti-cyclonic storms persist, while with countervailing spins, up & down, and within the same tornado or weather system.

It's not really a leap to reckon some electric parallels between tornados and Birkelands, imho.

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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by Zyxzevn » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:20 pm

The rotation direction depends on the history of the galaxy.
If the rotation speed changes during the growing of the galaxy, we get different
directions for the arms.

The rotation speed depends on the electric activity of the galaxy.
We can observe electrical activity (like "magnetic" fields) in most galaxies.

But since some galaxies can have very strong electromagnetic field, can we also see
a correlation in rotation-speed and electromagnetic activity?
Btw. are the rotation speeds "corrected" for "inflation"?
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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by celeste » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:37 pm

https://s22380.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploa ... gram_m.jpg
There is actual counter rotation even in the structure (forgetting about redshift/blueshift for a minute).
Starting at the center, it is counter clockwise moving outwards, then clockwise after a fixed radius

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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by BeAChooser » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:37 am

You folks might find this scientific paper interesting …

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1403.1263.pdf
Counter-Rotation in Disk Galaxies

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Re: The rotational curves of galaxies explained by Dr. Scott

Unread post by Michael Mozina » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:22 am

Thanks to the links about counter-rotating galaxies. Although I knew this was a possibility in Scott's model, I wasn't aware that such galaxies had already been identified. This is another example of a "prediction" that pops right out of EU/PC theory that is verified by observations in space. Not only is the relative speed of motion a function of EM fields, the rotation pattern is also a function of EM fields. EU/PC theory is superior to the LCDM model in every conceivable way.

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