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Re: 100,000 year power pulses...

Unread post by upriver » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:10 am

MattEU wrote:whats the source for the dating and the data?
Paleo study: Past global warming similar to today’s
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/15/p ... to-todays/

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Re: 100,000 year power pulses...

Unread post by seasmith » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:20 pm

Upriver wrote:» Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:18 pm

100,000 year power pulses...

The climate data looks like a sawtooth oscillator output. Does this reflect the timing of the power pulses that come down the filament that the solar system resides in, or the frequency that the sun is attuned to?

Are the "oscillations and "pulses maybe two sides of the same coin ?
A continuum, and as N J Shaviv states:
"...cosmic ray variability also arises intrinsically from variable activity of and motion through [the spiral arms of] the Milky Way."
Source: arXiv
ABSTRACT The short term variability of the galactic cosmic ray flux (CRF) reaching Earth has been previously associated with variations in the global low altitude cloud cover. This CRF variability arises from changes in the solar wind strength. However, cosmic ray variability also arises intrinsically from variable activity of and motion through the Milky Way. Thus, if indeed the CRF climate connection is real, the increased CRF witnessed while crossing the spiral arms could be responsible for a larger global cloud cover and a reduced temperature, thereby facilitating the occurrences of ice ages. This picture has been recently shown to be supported by various data [PhRvL 89 (2002) 051102]. In particular, the variable CRF recorded in Iron meteorites appears to vary synchronously with the appearance ice ages.Here, we expand upon the original treatment with a more thorough analysis and more supporting evidence. In particular, we discuss the cosmic ray diffusion model which considers the motion of the galactic spiral arms. We also elaborate on the structure and dynamics of the Milky Way’s spiral arms. In particular, we bring forth new argumentation using HI observations which imply that the galactic spiral arm pattern speed appears to be that which fits the glaciation period and the cosmic-ray flux record extracted from Iron meteorites. In addition, we show that apparent peaks in the star formation rate history, as deduced by several authors, coincides with particularly icy epochs, while the long period of 1 to 2 Gyr before present, during which no glaciations are known to have occurred, coincides with a significant paucity in the past star formation rate.
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Re: 100,000 year power pulses...

Unread post by MattEU » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:58 pm

Perhaps the dating of it is not accurate? I struggle to believe science dating but you have to reference back to it so much as what else can you use? Cycles of something?

I tend to think of the earth, solar system and perhaps local galaxy in some sort of negative feedback loop - be that energy or just to much pesky life that might be dominating a planet or an actual planet itself.

Obviously you have other things that can catastrophe you but thats life and death in an electric universe.

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Re: Electric Weather

Unread post by GaryN » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:48 pm

The Electric Eye of Cyclone Bansi
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The dim swirl of the cloud bands covers the ocean surface in this night image. The eye of the cyclone is brilliantly lit by lightning in or near the eye wall.

http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/ban ... M08xGO350w

A couple of images not on the NASA site, and according to James McCanney, were posted to Samantha Cristoforettis blog site without NASA permission. The strength of the cylone supposedly increased by 4 times during the course of the discharge.
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Re: Electric Weather

Unread post by seasmith » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:10 am

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Also that greenish aural arc surrounding the surface, in the top photograph, is a nice portrayal of Earth's
ionospheric electric double-layers.

≈≈≈

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Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by flyingcloud » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:03 am

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-falling-fa ... hers-super


Falling faster—researchers confirm super-terminal raindrops

Not only do these small raindrops fall faster than expected, they fall faster than they should be able to alone. As an object falls, two forces clash: Gravity pulls it down while air resists. Where the force of gravity matches the force of air resistance, the object reaches its "terminal speed." While the name sounds final, it's not. These small raindrops move faster—they are "super-terminal" raindrops.

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Re: Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by flyingcloud » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:19 am

http://www.waterjournal.org/volume-5/madl
So far, charges on these droplets are attributed to bursting water films (generated either by impact on surfaces and/or fragmentation of water droplets during free fall – e.g. Zilch et al., 2008) and can easily be detected even with a very simple commercially available air-ion counter. In general, the total charges on the positive side are usually <15% of the total negative charges (Bhattacharyya et al., 2010, Laakso et al., 2007). As has been proposed already some 80 years ago (Currie & Alty, 1929) charge formation could originate from oriented dipoles at the water-vapor boundary. Based on these observations, the charge separation mechanism has been attributed to the presence of an electrical double layer at the surface of the water droplets, where the outermost layers acquire an excess negative charge

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Re: Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by fosborn_ » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:23 am

http://www.mtu.edu/news/stories/2015/fe ... drops.html

The first link didn't work for me, this might if its the same for others.
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Re: Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by flyingcloud » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:09 am

thank-you!

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Re: Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by Metryq » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:58 pm

Ignore black swans and they will go away. Then some maverick comes along and rocks the boat.
"If you get a signal back and see drops are moving quickly, you assume they are big drops, but in reality they are small drops moving faster," says Garcia-Garcia.
Galileo is going to be so upset about this. Actually, I think he'd be stoked and want to examine it further.

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Re: Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by CharlesChandler » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:57 am

This same phenomenon has been observer at a much larger scale, namely meteoroids, which are also charged bodies moving through the air. The difference is that they start out going way faster than their terminal velocities, instead of getting accelerated above the terminal velocities by gravity. The similarity is that meteoroids don't experience anywhere near the braking we'd expect, given the incredible friction that they should be experiencing. Some call it a mystery, while others say that it's easy to explain -- a charged body builds up a layer of opposite charge in the atmosphere that moves with it -- an atmosphere so it say. This positively charged halo around the object, being an ionized gas (i.e., plasma) has a much lower viscosity than neutrally charged air. So the friction acting on the charged body is a lot less, because it is encased in a frictionless sheath of plasma. This allows gravity to accelerate the particles above their terminal velocities, or in the case of meteoroids, it prevents friction from slowing the objects down to the terminal velocities.
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Re: Super-terminal raindrops

Unread post by paladin17 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:24 am

Very interesting. Thank you.

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Lotso lightning...

Unread post by upriver » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:30 pm

Search "puyehue chile storm lightning" in google images.

and "puyehue chile volcano lightning". You get the idea!

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Re: Lotso lightning...

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Climate Cycles

Unread post by seasmith » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:34 am

Re: Hallstatt Cycle

~2400 yr Climate Change Cycle link to Planets
2016.09.04
Abstract
An oscillation with a period of about 2100–2500 years, the Hallstatt cycle, is found in cosmogenic radioisotopes (14C and 10Be) and in paleoclimate records throughout the Holocene.
This oscillation is typically associated with solar variations, but its primary physical origin remains uncertain. Herein we show strong evidences for an astronomical origin of this cycle. Namely, this oscillation is coherent to a repeating pattern in the periodic revolution of the planets around the Sun: the major stable resonance involving the four Jovian planets - Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune - which has a period of about p = 2318 years. Inspired by the Milanković’s ...
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Thus, the result supports a planetary theory of solar and/or climate variation that has recently received a renewed attention.
In our particular case, the rhythmic contraction and expansion of the solar system driven by a major resonance involving the movements of the four Jovian planets appear to work as a gravitational/electromagnetic pump that increases and decreases the cosmic ray and dust densities inside the inner region of the solar system, which then modulate both the radionucleotide production and climate change by means of a cloud/albedo modulation.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 5216301453

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