From my perspective I have several reservations:
1. It's Fox News.
2. It featured Michio Kaku.
3. They can't, as far as I'm aware, predict the strength or direction of solar flares or CMEs.
4. They rarely talk of anything other than the economic cost or consequences.
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Re: Super Solar Storm 2012
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Re: Super Solar Storm 2012
Hi Lloyd, I am fairly new here. I have done a ton of research on this topic, and boiled it down to about 27 pages. If you go to my blog (http://www.sickscent.blogspot.com/) and go through my research The Coming, Part 1: Celestial Convergence, you will see many phenomena converging that are looking to present a 'Perfect Storm' related to this issue.
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Solar Storms can Change Directions, Surprising Forecasters
Hello All,
Regarding this NASA news;
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... ep_zigzag/
Isn't this a related phenomenon to the oscillation of our sun as it orbits the galaxy, keeping our sun within ~7 degrees of the galactic plane? This makes for a total oscillation of our sun of ~14 degrees, and this oscillation occurs 3 times during the galactic orbit.
Based on that I infer that solar storms would be constrained to an oscillation of ~14 degrees of the solar eliptic plane, with a total variable of ~28 degrees. Using the IMF eliptic plane model it should be easier to predict solar storm earth targeting with this data.
This is a constraint of a rotating axial magnetic field. and accounts for NASA's giant ribbon at tje edge of the heliosphere. Earth's magnetosphere should have a similar pattern of charged particles.
Giant Ribbon Discovered at the Edge of the Solar System
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... 5oct_ibex/
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To go way out on a limb I would wildly speculate that these ribbons of energy influence DNA and account for the swathing nature of blood type O distribution;
Tom
Regarding this NASA news;
Solar Storms can Change Directions, Surprising Forecasters
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... ep_zigzag/
Isn't this a related phenomenon to the oscillation of our sun as it orbits the galaxy, keeping our sun within ~7 degrees of the galactic plane? This makes for a total oscillation of our sun of ~14 degrees, and this oscillation occurs 3 times during the galactic orbit.
Based on that I infer that solar storms would be constrained to an oscillation of ~14 degrees of the solar eliptic plane, with a total variable of ~28 degrees. Using the IMF eliptic plane model it should be easier to predict solar storm earth targeting with this data.
This is a constraint of a rotating axial magnetic field. and accounts for NASA's giant ribbon at tje edge of the heliosphere. Earth's magnetosphere should have a similar pattern of charged particles.
Giant Ribbon Discovered at the Edge of the Solar System
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... 5oct_ibex/
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To go way out on a limb I would wildly speculate that these ribbons of energy influence DNA and account for the swathing nature of blood type O distribution;
Tom
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Re: Super Solar Storm 2012
NASA has yet another piece on the threat to the power grid from solar activity.
I was just looking into proton storms, and the last one was 2005, NOAA 720
It blew out big time on the 20th.
http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php ... &year=2005
NASA has an explanation:
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... _newstorm/
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... larshield/The troublemaker for power grids is the "GIC" – short for geomagnetically induced current. When a coronal mass ejection (a billion-ton solar storm cloud) hits Earth's magnetic field, the impact causes the field to shake and quiver. These magnetic vibrations induce currents almost everywhere, from Earth's upper atmosphere to the ground beneath our feet. Powerful GICs can overload circuits, trip breakers, and in extreme cases melt the windings of heavy-duty transformers.
I was just looking into proton storms, and the last one was 2005, NOAA 720
It blew out big time on the 20th.
http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php ... &year=2005
NASA has an explanation:
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... _newstorm/
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Re: Solar Windy Days
This thread is a merger of the following threads:
News! - Solar Wind Hits Earth like Fire Hose
Implications for Sol's low solar "Wind" output
Solar Windy Days
direction of solar current in relation to planetary orbits
Solar Storms can Change Directions, Surprising Forecasters
Electric Solar Wind:is there charge oops change in the wind
Earth struck by most powerful space storm in three years
Super Solar Storm 2012
News! - Solar Wind Hits Earth like Fire Hose
Implications for Sol's low solar "Wind" output
Solar Windy Days
direction of solar current in relation to planetary orbits
Solar Storms can Change Directions, Surprising Forecasters
Electric Solar Wind:is there charge oops change in the wind
Earth struck by most powerful space storm in three years
Super Solar Storm 2012
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Re: Solar wind and storms
[PM to Tolenio 11-16]we live in an ionospheric bubble, which exists in a (solar system) heliospheric bubble, which pulsates within the flux of interstellar currents; but beyond that heat diffuses and ~
We feel the effects of the cumulative galactic and SS impulse harmonics and beats as weather upon our globe, but until the impinging forces are coherently integrated, prediction may be a bit iffy.
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A gigantic eruption on the Sun- due to strike Earth tonight!
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A huge mass of electrically-charged particles thrown out by a gigantic eruption on the Sun is due to strike the Earth tonight.
Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.
The result could be widespread power surges and even blackouts, disrupted TV and mobile phone signals, and broken down communication satellites.
At the same time the Northern Lights, normally confined to polar latitudes, may produce dazzling displays in the skies above southern Britain.
At least one satellite has already been knocked out of action by the storm. Japan's space agency said its Kodama communications satellite had been temporarily shut down after malfunctioning.
The solar flare that caused the eruption burst out of a sunspot at 10.54am yesterday.
Experts said it was the strongest flare seen in the past 30 years. The explosion caused a coronal mass ejection (CME) which is now speeding towards Earth.
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Re: A gigantic eruption on the Sun- due to strike Earth toni
From spaceweather.com
The Mail can be a little sensationalist, to say the least. We should find out soon though.
.The eruption hurled a cloud of plasma (a "CME") into space but not toward Earth. Because of the blast site's high-northern location on the sun, the cloud flew up and out of the plane of the solar system; no planets will be affected
The Mail can be a little sensationalist, to say the least. We should find out soon though.
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Re: A gigantic eruption on the Sun- due to strike Earth toni
http://www.spaceweather.com/images2011/ ... dpit4pnj81SOLAR ERUPTION: On Nov. 23rd, a magnetic filament wrapping around the sun's NW limb rose up and erupted. The eruption hurled a cloud of plasma (a "CME") into space but not toward Earth. Because of the blast site's high-northern location on the sun, the cloud flew up and out of the plane of the solar system; no planets will be affected.
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Re: A gigantic eruption on the Sun- due to strike Earth toni
This is an article from 2008.. It's been going around the internet for years after wards since they do not have a date on the article. Only on the top of the website, which updates every day, does the date change and it causes people to be confused.phyllotaxis wrote:
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A huge mass of electrically-charged particles thrown out by a gigantic eruption on the Sun is due to strike the Earth tonight.
Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.
The result could be widespread power surges and even blackouts, disrupted TV and mobile phone signals, and broken down communication satellites.
At the same time the Northern Lights, normally confined to polar latitudes, may produce dazzling displays in the skies above southern Britain.
At least one satellite has already been knocked out of action by the storm. Japan's space agency said its Kodama communications satellite had been temporarily shut down after malfunctioning.
The solar flare that caused the eruption burst out of a sunspot at 10.54am yesterday.
Experts said it was the strongest flare seen in the past 30 years. The explosion caused a coronal mass ejection (CME) which is now speeding towards Earth.
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Re: A gigantic eruption on the Sun- due to strike Earth toni
Doesn't surprise me, that's why I put up the Nict site, you can look and see whats happening with the magnetosphere there, right now its about normal with a right hand twist.
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Re: A gigantic eruption on the Sun- due to strike Earth toni
A false alarm.
I should have researched further.
I should have researched further.
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