Electric Titan

Historic planetary instability and catastrophe. Evidence for electrical scarring on planets and moons. Electrical events in today's solar system. Electric Earth.

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StefanR
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Re: Electric Titan

Unread post by StefanR » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:50 pm

S Freeman wrote:So the question:
Is it possible that the appearing islands are actually large icebergs of hydrocarbon compounds forming on the bottom of the lake and floating to the surface? Perhaps they are near neutral buoyancy, but some seasonal temperature or pressure changes cause them to surface?
Update:
Aha! I found something:
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/201 ... aturn-moon

Up to this point, scientists had assumed that Titan lakes would not have floating ice, because solid methane is denser than liquid methane and would sink. But the new model considers the interaction between the lakes and the atmosphere, resulting in different mixtures of compositions, pockets of nitrogen gas and changes in temperature. The result, scientists found, is that winter ice will float in Titan's methane-and-ethane-rich lakes and seas if the temperature is below minus 297 degrees Fahrenheit (90.4 kelvins)..


So, I don't see that they have considered the possibility Ive postulated.
What do you think?

It could be an interesting idea. But for me looking at the image in the space.com article:
Image

If I look at the big white areas, which are, I suppose, designated elevated areas, I would make more of a
fuss about them changing quite some more. Or there is something odd going on with the imaging itself?
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Re: Electric Titan

Unread post by S Freeman » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:59 pm

StefanR wrote: It could be an interesting idea. But for me looking at the image in the space.com article:
Image

If I look at the big white areas, which are, I suppose, designated elevated areas, I would make more of a
fuss about them changing quite some more. Or there is something odd going on with the imaging itself?
It could just be something odd. Something I am mindful of, is these are radar generated images, and bright spots can indicate electrified regions reflecting back the radar signal {like st elmo's fire). So we could also be looking at a mirage.
Also, sunlight can break down methane int CO2 and water.
So, things to consider:
  • Could there be insufficient sunlight at that distance to break down the methane?
    If so, Is there another process replenishing the methane in Titan?
Just a new guy here.

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Re: A Stunning View of Sunlit "Seas" on Titan

Unread post by paladin17 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:24 am

What I just found is that both these images, and this one too were taken exactly at the time of the Titan-Sun conjunction. I.e. when Titan is aligned with the Sun from Saturn's point of view.

If we stick to the discharge scenario, what would that mean?

In such a configuration Titan may leave the outer magnetospheric layers of Saturn (as we know, it is situated right near its boundary), since the magnetosphere is pushed towards the planet (and away from Titan) by the solar wind. So this kind of changes the environment, especially since Titan is not shielded by its own magnetosphere, and makes a discharge quite possible. So these infrared lights ("solar glare on the liquid reflecting surface") may as well be just lightning storms, - either in an intense earthly-like form, or in a form of sort of a diffuse glow.

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Re: Electric Titan

Unread post by Robertus Maximus » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:20 am

Weird Ice Formation Thousands of Miles Long

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 111826.htm
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists ... rgest-moon
https://www.space.com/titan-saturn-moon ... ation.html

The feature is reminiscent of features mapped on Venus by the Magellan spacecraft. The question is cryovolcanism or electrical discharge?

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=5663

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