Deepest Space

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Deepest Space

Unread post by Sparky » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:03 am

Posted on June 5, 2014 by Stephen Smith
As quasars move away from their origin within a parent galaxy, their redshifts begin to decrease until they reach somewhere near z = 0.3. At that point, the quasar resembles a galaxy. The inertial moment of ejection is eventually overcome and the mass of the quasar increases while the speed of ejection decreases, until it may become a companion galaxy. It is in that way that galaxies form and age, evolving from highly redshifted quasars, to small irregular galaxies, and then into larger barred spirals.
Generally, what causes the decrease in redshift?

What friction overcomes inertial moment to decrease velocity?

Mass increases? Would that be from absorbing gas clouds or connection to original galaxy?

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Re: Deepest Space

Unread post by antosarai » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:12 am

Sparky wrote:Posted on June 5, 2014 by Stephen Smith
As quasars move away from their origin within a parent galaxy, their redshifts begin to decrease until they reach somewhere near z = 0.3. At that point, the quasar resembles a galaxy. The inertial moment of ejection is eventually overcome and the mass of the quasar increases while the speed of ejection decreases, until it may become a companion galaxy. It is in that way that galaxies form and age, evolving from highly redshifted quasars, to small irregular galaxies, and then into larger barred spirals.
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I thought EU proposes galaxies, like stars, are plasmoids formed in z-pinch of humongous intergalactic Birkeland currents?

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Re: Deepest Space

Unread post by CTJG 1986 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:58 am

antosarai wrote: I thought EU proposes galaxies, like stars, are plasmoids formed in z-pinch of humongous intergalactic Birkeland currents?
I apologize for a rather long response first off, but I'll try to keep it very KISS.

The galactic nucleus is considered to be a plasmoid formed in a Z-Pinch, while the energy circuits produced around those plasmoids by the Birkeland Currents that make up the "arms" of barred spiral galaxies produce a type of 'homopolar motor' that draws energy and matter(if there's a distinction) into the current filaments and into the plasmoid pinches of both stars and the galactic nucleus within those circuits.

The filaments exhibiting behavior as described and modeled by Dr. Donald Scott funnel energy/matter into these specific regions of the current which then are subject to instabilities which produce smaller scale Z-Pinches which form the central plasmoids(stars) for stellar systems.

Note: Dr. Scott's model presentation at EU2014 "Dr. Donald Scott: A New Model of Magnetic Structure in Space" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKG7HFM21Qk

Those smaller plasmoids generate their own stellar currents(Solar Wind, Heliospheric Current Sheet/Heliospheric DL boundary, etc.) and so logically one can assume planetary formation has something to do with pinching of matter and energy in those plasma currents as well but electrical fissioning may be the main 'initiator' in the processes and these currents may merely add additional matter to planetary bodies gradually after their fissioned "birth".

If that plasmoid for any reason becomes subject to much greater electrical stresses than it can handle it will break into 2 or more pieces in an electrical fission event in order to produce more bulk/surface area to handle the increased energy as the electrical energy is predominantly a "surface phenomenon" that manifests in exterior fields such as Earth's Ionosphere and Magnetosphere aka the 'Plasmasphere'.

If our Sun were to be split into 2 pieces it would effectively double the surface area of the plasmoid and thus also greatly increase the amount of electrical energy and stress the now 2-body system can handle. However that new body would have it's own fields and currents and electrical properties and the core EM 'dogma' comes into play - "attraction and repulsion" or "equilibrium" as the 2 charged bodies seek to find their place of stability relative to each other(as planets find their places within the EM/gravitational framework of the Solar System to be stable).

I believe it is this that is suggested by Steve Smith in the quote provided as a fissioning event splits a single "quasar" plasmoid from a "parent" plasmoid and the immediate charge issues cause the smaller "quasar" plasmoid to be "repulsed" from the "parent" with a velocity that decreases gradually with distance until the "quasar" finds it's place of EM balance with it's "parent" plasmoid and becomes a companion galaxy(logically outside the charge field/cell of the parent plasmoid within the larger inter-galactic framework).

This fission event is what the TP theorizes produces binary and trinary star systems and may likely also be the foundation of planetary bodies as ejected plasmoids from the Sun "cool" down over time to become solid bodies(those with proper elemental composition anyways) within the EM/gravitational framework of the Solar plasmoid's "cell"(heliosphere).

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Re: Deepest Space

Unread post by antosarai » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:58 am

Thanks for your response, CTJG 1986.

I and Ockham's Razor find it hard to accept galaxies should have two diverse origin mechanisms...

Also,

- What are these electrical stresses plasmoids must handle?
- How does a plasmoid 'handle' eletrical stresses?

I read the words but have no idea what they mean. Nor could I find explanations; not in thunderbolts.info, nor Google...

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