Birkland currents and space travel

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Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by keithnellie » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:52 am

Would it be possible, using Birkland currents or filaments, to develop a new form of space travel or communication?

I know we can send signals along a power line so would it be possible to send signals along a filament?

Or if a craft could be developed that could reverse it potential and be pushed/pulled along a filament sorta like a rail gun?

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by D_Archer » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:17 am

You could ride in the direction of the current and since current goes both ways in Birkeland currents, it should be possible. But you would need to turn your spacecraft into a primary particle, like a plasmoid. The engineering difficulties this represents is beyond us currently, although black programs are expmerimenting with plasma lifters and electrical impulse drives, this is still a far cry from a spaceship becoming energy all around the outside.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by keithnellie » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:44 pm

Thanks for the reply, what about the possibility of using the currents as communication?

I realize it may be difficult to isolate a signal in all the noise but we are currently investigating similar technology with internet over power lines.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by shadowmane » Sat May 04, 2013 10:50 am

I don't think the craft has to be a plasmoid. All it has to do is react with the filament in such a way that it is propelled. Think of it in terms of a maglev. You simply ride the fillament as if it were a maglev rail. Plasma sails could do the job.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by PersianPaladin » Mon May 13, 2013 7:30 am

The magnetic fields across the filaments are far too weak to make them of much use. The currents, although in total may be very large - are generally of such low density that it would make it a fruitless endeavour.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by Alphane » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:10 am

You could use them for navigation.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by rkm » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:24 am

Wouldn't the voltage potential be the useful thing, rather than the current flow? If the spacecraft is ionize, it should experience continuous acceleration.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by Osmosis » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:45 pm

A magnetic field can be modulated and a total-field magnetometer can be part of a receiver for communication.
I demonstrated this 30+ years ago.

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Re: Birkland currents and space travel

Unread post by rasmath » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:30 pm

@Osmosis
How could this be done for space travel ?

Another question. If a civilization is into a plasma Z pinch event. Would they be able to travel ?

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