Is It Time to Embrace Unverified Theories?

Has science taken a wrong turn? If so, what corrections are needed? Chronicles of scientific misbehavior. The role of heretic-pioneers and forbidden questions in the sciences. Is peer review working? The perverse "consensus of leading scientists." Good public relations versus good science.

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Is It Time to Embrace Unverified Theories?

Unread post by Zelectric » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:51 pm

Interesting article with even more interesting comments!

"In the world of modern physics, there is change afoot. Researchers are striving so hard to leap beyond the mostly settled science of the Standard Model that they’re daring to break from one of science’s crucial traditions. In pursuit of a definitive, unifying description of reality, some scientists are arguing that scientific theories may not require experimental proof to be accepted as truth.

The philosophical tradition of defining scientific knowledge as inherently empirical, founded on observation, goes back centuries. And in the 20th century, Karl Popper, one of the few philosophers regarded as a hero among scientists, moved the paradigm one step further. He argued that a theory must be falsifiable to be scientific. So a scientist not only has to be able to support a theory with evidence; she also has to be able to show that there could be evidence that would prove it wrong.

Any movement that deviates from this tradition alarms most scientists. And now that alarm is spilling into the pages of prominent journals."
Full article: http://nautil.us/blog/is-it-time-to-emb ... d-theories

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Re: Is It Time to Embrace Unverified Theories?

Unread post by MerLynn » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:26 pm

Time to define "unverified".
Absolutely everything man tries to explain what he believes he knows is just some 'theory'.
Facts are few and far between.
So we coin the term 'peer reviewed' to overcome this diversion to form a consensus of nothing but opinion.
What if one has no peer? What if theoretical scientists refuse to study anomalies in experiments? Then what does one do?
We turn to the internet and Thunderbolts to lift the veil of mass brainwashings.
At magneticwaterscience.com our Plasma Science (theory) explains what our peers and scientists refuse to acknowledge even happened much less to try to understand it.
Case in point.
Santos, a large resources company in Aust has a huge liquid waste concern. It was organised for the head of Santos R&D division to supply 4 x 1000 liter containers of liquid 'mining' wastes which varied in consistency from 'tar' to acid solutions. At the car part in Queensland University, (away from any other electro-magnetic fields found in cubical rooms and wired with pulsating AC) two of their top 'Professors' along with Mr 'R&D Santos' and the 3 guys representing business interests in environmental waste clean ups, and a very gifted inventor who has brought several of his devices to treat the wastes met to experiment.
One device consisted of steel plates in a steel vessel powered with a 12v car battery. It was decided to pump the tar sample through first. May as well get this over and done right away they all thought.
So the 1000 liter pallet tank was hooked up to the inlet of the steel tank and the honda pump started and the Electro-Magnetic Water Restructuring device was powered up with a battery.
In went tar and out came PURE FRESH drinking water which the inventor captured some in a glass and drank it. Where upon Mr Santos did the same. After drinking a glass full he said "Ive seen enough" and left. There was no by products. Tar in fresh out.
The inventor then went on to Electromagnetically restructure the 4000 liters of mining wastes into fresh water with several devices that all did the same thing.
The 'scientists' took samples of everything and everyone went home. Two weeks later after all the analyzing was completed the University asked for the experiment to be done again as there was no way with their particle theories to explain how just passing tar through a ring magnet it came out as fresh water.
Because the 'scientists' could not explain it they were unable to write a report and sign their name to results they could not explain. Without a report Mr Santos had nothing to table to his board of Directors. The Queensland Govt Minister for Mines who was also present in the car park was unable to do anything without a university peer reviewed report. I do have the raw data pdf reports of the water tests but that is all.

Another case in point.
This time in the car park of Southern Cross University. The device consisting of stainless steel Electromagnetically Water restructuring device (cell/array/antenna/magnetic field generation device/water module) and a 12 V car battery was filled with water and the water turned into "saudi like" crude oil.
(a video of this can be seen at magneticwaterscience.com if you ask in a private email for the password)

Getting verification is the key point, but in the real world nothing is going to be embraced no matter how real if it upsets certain interest groups.

The science (unverified theory) of Plasma Energy to explain all the above can be found where the skeptical moderator put it...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 10&t=15919

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Re: Is It Time to Embrace Unverified Theories?

Unread post by The Great Dog » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:25 am

The illogical and the unreasonable must be allowed in science, otherwise the risk is that inquiry will become compliance, and insight will never express its discoveries.
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Re: Is It Time to Embrace Unverified Theories?

Unread post by saul » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:35 pm

Martin Schwarzchild eloquently gave us the answer to this question already:

"If simple perfect laws uniquely rule the Universe, should not pure thought be capable of uncovering this perfect set of laws without having to lean on the crutches of tediously assembled observations? True, the laws to be discovered may be perfect, but the human brain is not. Left on its own, it is prone to stray, as many past examples sadly prove. In fact, we have missed few chances to err until new data freshly gleaned from nature set us right again for the next steps. Thus pillars rather than crutches are the observations on which we base our theories. "

So no, it's actually time to abandon unverified theories thank you very much.

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