seasmith wrote:Phase Diagrams made simple:seasmith wrote:
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jimmcgin wrote:
(Consult an H2O phase diagram for details.)
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I'm the #1 expert in the world on water
Have you ever studied phase diagrams, or just looked at the pictures ?
Do you know what a sublimation line is
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Gas, liquid and solid are standard terms. When pressure decreases and/or heat increases, the molecules of a liquid or solid substance may disassociate (evaporation/sublimation) and form what is called gas. Conversely when those conditions are reversed, so also is the organization of those molecules. [Extreme conditions may form what are called supercritical fluids, a different thread].
I have previously provided images of combinations of H2O molecules which, given the asymmetric polarity of the water molecule, might be conducive to a ‘stable’ aggregation of H20 molecules. For example dimers through hexamers, which would then be favorable configurations to join with similar stable H2O oligamers. These *organized* molecular associations (i.e. clusters and nano-droplets) can become a ‘vapor’ or mist.
The presence of an electric field can very greatly accelerate these processes.
It has also been pointed out previously for Mcginn, instances when he has become a bit lost in semantics, and perhaps a deficient understanding of what is commonly termed “bonding”; but apparently you can’t talk common sense to “the #1 expert in the world on water”.
Oh well.
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`Mcginn wrote:
Hmm. I think I get your point. You are saying that if we act like children and close our eyes the monster goes away.
So, . . . I agree that if we gloss over the details we can continue to pretend that H2O magically turns to gaseous at temperatures far below/above the temperatures/pressures indicated in the phase diagram.
I have decided not to abide with this convention. But if it makes you feel any better I want you to know that I fully support your right to believe whatever you choose to believe.
Most people when presented with a choice between what is easiest to believe and what is true will always choose the former. I always choose the latter.
I'm funny that way.
A bit funny perhaps, but not in that way.
I will leave you now to your fantasies....