Ancient Technologies
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Re: Ancient Technologies
I started a thread on my website on theories at http://futureschool.boards.net/thread/22/theories . Below is how I'm starting it out. I may modify it eventually. If anyone has info or suggestions for collaboration etc, feel free to reply. I need to add one or more questions re Ancient Tech.
CATASTROPHIST THEORIES
i. MODELS
ii. QUESTIONS & ANSWERS FOR COMPARISON OF MODELS
iii. REQUESTS FOR EACH MODEL
iv. DISCUSSIONS LINKS
v. MODELS CONSIDERED FAIRLY ACCURATE & COMPLETE
(Parts i and ii are semi-completed below so far.)
i. MODELS
IV __ Immanuel Velikovsky
__ http://www.varchive.org/
__ http://www.everythingselectric.com/prod ... sion-free/
__ http://ltfmc.org/wp-content/uploads/201 ... heaval.pdf
__ http://youtu.be/uflfUwrNx2k
RD __ Robert Driscoll
__ http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/sear ... t%5B%5D=-1
JA __ Jack Ackerman
__ http://www.firmament-chaos.com/va_scenario.html
__ http://cycliccatastrophism.org/
GG __ Gary Gilligan
__ http://www.godkingscenario.com/ __
http://www.gks.uk.com/
GH __ Gunnar Heinsohn
__ http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/sear ... t%5B%5D=-1
JC __ Jno Cook
__ http://saturniancosmology.org/
DC __ Dwardu Cardona
__ http://www.ifiseeu.com/saturn-jupiter-m ... emands.htm
__ http://www.saturniancosmology.org/files/thoth/
DT __ Dave Talbott
__ http://www.saturniancosmology.org/files/thoth/
OC __ Oard Creationists
__ http://creation.com/michael-j-oard
__ http://creation.com/andrew-a-snelling
JB __ John Baumgardner
__ http://www.socalsem.edu/noahs-flood-the ... h-history/
__ http://creation.com/john-baumgardner
WB __ Walter Brown
__ http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/
__ http://creation.com/hydroplate-theory
MF __ Mike Fischer
__ http://newgeology.us/
LK __ Lloyd Kinder
__ http://futureschool.boards.net/thread/2 ... astrophism
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ii. QUESTIONS FOR EACH MODEL FOR COMPARISON
A. What is the main claim of each theory?
B. How and when did the Earth form?
C. How and when did the largely granitic/sedimentary continents and the largely basaltic ocean basins form?
D. How and when did sedimentary rock strata form?
E. How and when did mountains form?
F. What Earth cataclysms occurred and when?
G. Which space objects caused which of the cataclysms and how?
CATASTROPHIST THEORIES
i. MODELS
ii. QUESTIONS & ANSWERS FOR COMPARISON OF MODELS
iii. REQUESTS FOR EACH MODEL
iv. DISCUSSIONS LINKS
v. MODELS CONSIDERED FAIRLY ACCURATE & COMPLETE
(Parts i and ii are semi-completed below so far.)
i. MODELS
IV __ Immanuel Velikovsky
__ http://www.varchive.org/
__ http://www.everythingselectric.com/prod ... sion-free/
__ http://ltfmc.org/wp-content/uploads/201 ... heaval.pdf
__ http://youtu.be/uflfUwrNx2k
RD __ Robert Driscoll
__ http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/sear ... t%5B%5D=-1
JA __ Jack Ackerman
__ http://www.firmament-chaos.com/va_scenario.html
__ http://cycliccatastrophism.org/
GG __ Gary Gilligan
__ http://www.godkingscenario.com/ __
http://www.gks.uk.com/
GH __ Gunnar Heinsohn
__ http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/sear ... t%5B%5D=-1
JC __ Jno Cook
__ http://saturniancosmology.org/
DC __ Dwardu Cardona
__ http://www.ifiseeu.com/saturn-jupiter-m ... emands.htm
__ http://www.saturniancosmology.org/files/thoth/
DT __ Dave Talbott
__ http://www.saturniancosmology.org/files/thoth/
OC __ Oard Creationists
__ http://creation.com/michael-j-oard
__ http://creation.com/andrew-a-snelling
JB __ John Baumgardner
__ http://www.socalsem.edu/noahs-flood-the ... h-history/
__ http://creation.com/john-baumgardner
WB __ Walter Brown
__ http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/
__ http://creation.com/hydroplate-theory
MF __ Mike Fischer
__ http://newgeology.us/
LK __ Lloyd Kinder
__ http://futureschool.boards.net/thread/2 ... astrophism
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ii. QUESTIONS FOR EACH MODEL FOR COMPARISON
A. What is the main claim of each theory?
B. How and when did the Earth form?
C. How and when did the largely granitic/sedimentary continents and the largely basaltic ocean basins form?
D. How and when did sedimentary rock strata form?
E. How and when did mountains form?
F. What Earth cataclysms occurred and when?
G. Which space objects caused which of the cataclysms and how?
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Re: Ancient Technologies
OP you appear to be confusing a fan made/inspired youtube video, with the work of Jno Cook. Which as far as I can tell he is not, nor has been involved with.
"I decided to believe, as you might decide to take
an aspirin: It can't hurt, and you might get better."
-- Umberto Eco Foucault's Pendulum (1988)
an aspirin: It can't hurt, and you might get better."
-- Umberto Eco Foucault's Pendulum (1988)
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Re: Ancient Technologies
The Nimrud lens (750 BC) is from Assyria . Aristophanes wrote Comedy of the Clouds in 424 BC: Strepsiades: “Have you ever seen a beautiful, transparent stone at the druggists’, with which you may kindle fire?” Socrates: “You mean a crystal lens.”
1st century AD Roman Seneca the Younger :“Letters, however small and indistinct, are seen enlarged and more clearly through a globe or glass filled with water.” The lens from Mount Ida Crete 5th century BC can magnify seven times and even twenty times with considerable distortion. Galileo's telescope had 20x mag.
Roman writers Pliny and Seneca refer to a lens used by an engraver in Pompeii. There are may exampls of Celtic metalwork with tiny details.
such as the e in exampls
1st century AD Roman Seneca the Younger :“Letters, however small and indistinct, are seen enlarged and more clearly through a globe or glass filled with water.” The lens from Mount Ida Crete 5th century BC can magnify seven times and even twenty times with considerable distortion. Galileo's telescope had 20x mag.
Roman writers Pliny and Seneca refer to a lens used by an engraver in Pompeii. There are may exampls of Celtic metalwork with tiny details.
such as the e in exampls
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Re: Ancient Technologies
John, kauranos, you should provide references, but I agree that those are good evidence. My impression is that there was very advanced civilization over 4,000 years ago, which produced the ancient maps shortly after the greatest cataclysms, but that later civilization lost a lot of tech, until the Renaissance.
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Re: Ancient Technologies
Lloyd,
Here we go:
"John" : birth certificate , Plymouth UK.
Nimrud lens - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Nimrud_lens
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/8688/8688-8.txt
Title: The Eleven Comedies. Author: Aristophanes et al
STREPSIADES. I have found a very clever way to annul that conviction; youwill admit that much yourself.
SOCRATES. What is it?
STREPSIADES. Have you ever seen a beautiful, transparent stone at thedruggists, with which you may kindle fire?SOCRATES. You mean a crystal lens.
STREPSIADES. Yes.SOCRATES. Well, what then?
STREPSIADES. If I placed myself with this stone in the sun and a long way off from the clerk, while he was writing out the conviction, I could makeall the wax, upon which the words were written, melt.
Seneca the Younger. Book 1. Meteors, Halo and Rainbow. Vi.1
Pliny the Elder, Natural History , 37.10,28, transltion D.E.Eichholz. quoted in :https://www.academia.edu/1191174/A_Rare ... Instrument
"Yet other scholars have strongly advocated the view that magnifying aids were necessary for the craftsmen who manufactured them. (Beck 1928, p. 327; Sines & Sakellarakis1987, p. 194)".
Here we go:
"John" : birth certificate , Plymouth UK.
Nimrud lens - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Nimrud_lens
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/8688/8688-8.txt
Title: The Eleven Comedies. Author: Aristophanes et al
STREPSIADES. I have found a very clever way to annul that conviction; youwill admit that much yourself.
SOCRATES. What is it?
STREPSIADES. Have you ever seen a beautiful, transparent stone at thedruggists, with which you may kindle fire?SOCRATES. You mean a crystal lens.
STREPSIADES. Yes.SOCRATES. Well, what then?
STREPSIADES. If I placed myself with this stone in the sun and a long way off from the clerk, while he was writing out the conviction, I could makeall the wax, upon which the words were written, melt.
Seneca the Younger. Book 1. Meteors, Halo and Rainbow. Vi.1
Pliny the Elder, Natural History , 37.10,28, transltion D.E.Eichholz. quoted in :https://www.academia.edu/1191174/A_Rare ... Instrument
"Yet other scholars have strongly advocated the view that magnifying aids were necessary for the craftsmen who manufactured them. (Beck 1928, p. 327; Sines & Sakellarakis1987, p. 194)".
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Re: Ancient Technologies
Thanks, John. Good job with listing your sources there (or I assume so, since I can't check them out easily). What do you think of the ancient maps that indicate that there was advanced tech much earlier, at the time of the Great Flood and other cataclysms, that allowed people then to make accurate maps before, during and after the ice sheets formed? Have you studied any of that?
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Re: Ancient Technologies
Looks like John, i.e. kauranos, is no longer a member of the forum. I wonder what happened.
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