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Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Poppa Tom » Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:25 pm

Another thought passed between my two braincells
That when lightening hits the ground it will strike at you, seemingly looking for you as charges fight to equalize and the bolt crawls along the ground till it bites you......what do you think? Feasible?

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Poppa Tom » Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:51 pm

Incredibly unbelievable, I would think. Most do not think on the scale of a lightening bolt hundreds of miles wide, the literally deafening noise....the world.....the whole world heaves in miles high convulsions. Wow.

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Cargo » Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:52 am

You can find them in a few off-beat sci-fi movies. Anime being the best kind of course, real freedom to create. I have another thread about a scene in the recent He-Man from NetFlix. There's also another I haven't wrote to the internet about, but in Garden of Vampires (iirc), there is an episode with several scenes of a northern climate farm, and the Aurora going on during which last several minutes, and different vantages points, is absolutely mind blowing. If you can see the EU, this artist's impression will bring you to tears almost. Just imagine.

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:30 pm

Poppa Tom wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:58 am Here, at 5:03 slow motion lightening gives you a great rendition of
a many headed snake.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQKhIK4pvYo&feature=shares
That absolutely MUST be what was depicted by many headed snakes, you'd think. What else can represent that image? Although, I'm still wondering about the undulation of a serpent, being most visually represented by an auroral image of that kind of shape. We can easily see that even in present day, but unassociated to a catastrophic event. So I wonder what an auroral event looks like, ramped up to catastrophe levels.

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Poppa Tom » Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:58 am

Here, at 5:03 slow motion lightening gives you a great rendition of
a many headed snake.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQKhIK4pvYo&feature=shares

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:37 am

exactly. So its not such an obsessive fixation to focus on the expectations of undulations as what is likely the key observation to justify those particular symbolic images. But I'm stuck with a poor understanding of all the electrical vehicles and their own distinctive appearances. What ever it is though, there has to be some aspect of the same kind of visual light movement as you'd see from a regular aurora borealis. But the aurora like events don't appear to be the kind of event that scars the earth. Associations with thunderbolts perhaps, but the Aurora type don't actually seem likely to do the damage.

So there's wispy plasma effects that waive and undulate up in the sky, but there's also other arc mode events that strike the earth. I wonder if the super charged arc mode stuff has undulations. Because in my mind I'm picturing more lightning like angular shapes and straight lines.

Could that be it? Snakes/dragons are the wispy sky plasma, and Thunderbolts are the arc mode destructive part of the events? And if so, wonder if there are stories that distinguish between the two events being related as one happens before the other, vs vs, or do they happen all at the same time.

Just spitballing here, out of possible ignorance if these scenarios are already well known in their specifics.

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by nick c » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:00 am

David Talbott on the "Serpents in the sky":
SERPENTS IN THE SKY
The pervasive role of cosmic "serpents" in world mythology is a mystery
often mentioned in historical and astronomical studies, but never
satisfactorily explained. Frequently adorned with feathers or wings,
sprouting long-flowing hair, or breathing fire, these monsters rank
among the most enigmatic and outrageous cultural icons, invariably
eluding the grasp of the researchers attempting to explain them. Yet
around the world, these biologically absurd serpents reveal numerous
features in common--the clearest indication that the monsters DO have an
explanation. But when investigators, exploring every possibility they can
imagine, still find no answer, it becomes increasingly likely that the
truth is simply "off the map"--outside the limits of current thinking.
The boundaries of perception have excluded a memory so powerful that it
influenced every ancient culture. From the infancy of civilization
through all prior epochs of human history, world-altering serpents were
claimed to have once moved in the heavens.

In most great mysteries, recurring patterns are the key to discovery. Is
it significant, for example, that wherever the theme of Doomsday or
celestial chaos occurs, a great serpent or dragon (mythic alter ego of
the serpent) presides over the disaster? The connection is as old as the
earliest civilizations. In ancient Egypt, the serpent Apep, whom the
Greeks called Apophis, was the arch-enemy of the creator and of
celestial order. His plotting against the supreme god Ra produced an
earthshaking tempest in the heavens, and numerous Egyptian rites
commemorated the victory of Ra over Apep, whose hideous forms and
terrible roar haunted the Egyptians throughout their history. At the
temple of Ra in Heliopolis the priests ritually trod underfoot images of
Apep to represent his defeat at the hands of Ra. At the temple of Edfu,
a long series of reliefs depict the warrior Horus and his followers
vanquishing Apep or his counterpart Set, cutting to pieces the
monster's companions, the "fiends of darkness."

Comparative investigation confirms that every well-documented culture
possessed its own names and images of the serpent or dragon of
chaos--the monster whom the Babylonians called Tiamat, the Greeks knew
as Typhon or Python, and the Hindus called Vritra or Ahi. In Australia
it was the Bunyip-monster, sometimes identified as the "Rainbow
Serpent," that once decimated the earth. And in North America remarkably
similar stories were told of the "Great Horned Serpent."

The above is an excerpt from "The Serpents of Creation"

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:55 pm

hey Cargo, that video is EXACTLY what the dr ordered. Thank you for that.

Excellent full description of what I'm talking about. Man, you nailed it.

There's a comment made during that video as follows:

"The twisting and pulsing plasma discharges that last only several nanoseconds at a laboratory scale,
could last for days or weeks at a planetary scale.”

If plasma benefits from its scalability in laboratory experiments to be able to confidently extrapolate up to global events, I'm curious where the confidence comes from in that statement. Because if that duration of event difference between lab and planet is a presumption, the claim of these mechanisms in this video risks falling short if wrong. I’d be very interested to understand how we can make that claim based on calculation and provability.

Specifically, what can you suggest is the difference between the lab event that lasts nanoseconds and a similar plasma outburst in the sky above the planet, that would allow it a duration of days or weeks? What are the inputs that control that duration? What are the conditions that differentiate between the lab and planetary scale that affect the duration of the event? For the lab examples to qualify as illustrations of global events, it seems being able to understand how to scale up the duration to a long enough time in the sky to make the impression it did on ancient people carving into rock, its a pretty important part of the value of this theory.

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Cargo » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:48 am

You remind me of something I saw and asked about, take a look
https://thunderbolts.info/wp/forum3/phpBB3 ... ?f=5&t=775

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:52 am

no offense taken. but that is a swear word around here though...

I see your images. I DO get that. I have seen all the animations associated with what was presumed to have happened in the Saturn Myth. Those are all interesting images anchored in ancient imagery around the world in ancient symbology. But it was just this fascination with snakes/dragons, that seemed to scream 'undulations' and I really thought I was just missing something you all, as part of the EU, already knew, but I guess I was wrong.

Looks like there are no obvious snake like light shows that happened back then. Its a disappointment to hear though. I wasn't prepared to find out that everyone on earth depicted images poorly maybe in this particular case. I mean unless they're talking about the waves of the northern lights, but that's obviously not it.

I understand the comet tails point away from the sun regardless of their direction of motions. I'm sold on the electrical nature of the attractive or repellent relationships. I don't know. Is it possible that when comets entered the earths Ionosphere, there might have been some kind of short circuit that resulted in some kind of waivey plasma outbursts or something? I mean we have no historical reference so is spitballing on this hypothetical event possible?

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by nick c » Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:02 am

Open Mind wrote: it is being pushed forward that a Comet tail is the streak of light that people decided to represent as a Snake. But its obvious that if you represent something as a snake, its definately not going to be a straight line of light.
It seems that the above quote is exhibiting a bit of unintentional uniformitarian bias. (No offense intended!)
The electromagnetic forces within our solar system, that gave rise to world wide cometary imagery, were of a scale that is not observed today.

Remember, comets are not a type of celestial object, but rather they are an electrical condition imposed upon some celestial objects. Today's comets are puny left overs and remnants of a past catastrophic solar system.

Comets can be very large objects, including planets, stars, and even galaxies...that is they are exhibiting a tail... see

"Super Hot Planet With A Unique Comet-Like Tail"

"A Star With A Comet's Tail"

The Tadpole Galaxy

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:44 pm

"I suspect that you are being too literal minded"

Damn, maybe.

Well I have no issues with the thunderbolt images. But I was really hoping for some kind of undulating plasma thing that we can point to as a better alternative. It would have been a good EU recruiter if real. lol

I'm sold on the transmutation idea. Maybe the Great Pyramid was a transmutation machine. lol

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by allynh » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:53 pm

I think episode six is where they feature the "Serpent Mound":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_Mound

Remember, that is a "map" for observing the sky, that's not how the comet looked to them. Comets look like "serpents", some look like "feathered serpents" with many tails fanning out behind.

- People saw living things in the sky, "serpents" or "snakes", and described them based on what they knew.

I suspect that you are being too literal minded. Watch the Electric Comet video again and you will see what I mean.

The Electric Comet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt2EU ... pH&index=3

BTW, Transmutation occurs all over the planet, all the time, not just in the crust. It's not about "high heat" it's about different frequencies of light or electrical frequencies, catalyzing the Transmutation.

A bolt of energy hitting the ground causes gold and other metals to be created from silicon dioxide. There are regions in New Mexico where Thunderbird walked and you have copper mines with gold, silver, etc...

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:32 pm

I'm picturing something like this explanation of the Magnatar Bursts from the lower L shells in this vid from Suspicious Observer. I know people don't like the 'end of the world' stuff from Ben, but I'm specifically talking about a visual I'm looking for. Not a segue to prepping here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ebqN0NSrI

If this concept could be tweaked to illustrate a person on the ground POV perspective showing that the actual lightning demonstrated some kind of undulations to link the snake idea, that would be cool. But that's just a wish list and maybe I'm dead wrong about it. Wish I knew what electrical event actually demonstrated the effect to tie this all together.

I'm open to being completely wrong and in fact it was a comet tail this entire time. I'm just under the presumption that a global identification of a 'snake' visual seems so obviously linked to the undulation visual AND that the twisted pair idea seems like it might play into this.

Re: Ancient depictions of snakes

by Open Mind » Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:22 pm

“The Platinum and Iridium found in the "black layer" are clearly due to Transmutation rather than meteorites”

Interesting. All this time, I’ve been suggesting that all the impact proxies are the same as you’d see from a plasma strike. High heat is high heat. I can see how that could be possible with the Safire findings as the example. But I was starting to lean towards the cool idea that transmutation was happening inside the earth instead. That’s a tough one. I think I might continue suggesting they’re high heat proxies though. Its just easier to comprehend.

I’ve seen all your vids and none of them present a devoted part to how to tie in the Snake visual with some kind of event that includes clearly an undulating tail. I don’t think there’s going to be any good real or lab visuals with enough density to appear on the nose enough, so I’m expecting its going to have to be an animation. Like I said, I'd overlay my own animation on a scene as I imagine it. Just wish I could comprehend what the leading guys would be willing to put on paper as a committed suggestion of what it might have looked like. At this point, I'm pulling it out of my ass, but you gotta admit, that 'undulation' has gotta be part of it for a global recognition of form.

I just think we need that visual to anchor the idea that Snake = Straight Comet tail, is a poor comparison. Its so bad, we’ll lose people to all of this stuff IMO. Its too easy for the civilian main stream'er to dismiss IMO.

I’d agree with him to leave Giants alone. You gotta leave a bunch of stuff as the recognized inference that you EARN once you agree to the initial premise. Some idea’s are really only effective as debunking fuel.

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