In the begining....

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light? If you have a personal favorite theory, that is in someway related to the Electric Universe, this is where it can be posted.
Poppa Tom
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In the begining....

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:15 pm

Alas dark stuff is going back in the closet. Electricity is trending in the universe
The matrix(vibration, frequency, light)is real....
So....how did the matrix begin? Were that the case. How would a matrix create itself?
What would a matrix universe come into existence, if not by intelligence?
Don't laugh too hard, this is Mad Ideas.

What if....in order for the matrix to....coagulate, for lack of a better word, to....quicken?
Light, had to slow down?
A 'light' universe, infinitely hot......alright alright, I know about no such thing as infinity....sheesh okokok.....really, really hot.
Runs into an area, in the limitless universe, that slows it down? Like water in a glass, the light slows to non-quantum levels and matter is formed to this 'slowing' of the limitless speed of the light that is everywhere instantly.

How does this happen? Me-no-know. :roll:
But ....its just a thought....
How can you think in a quantum universe?
...mmmmmm

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Re: In the begining....

Unread post by allynh » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:39 pm

See my earlier posts in your Electric Matrix thread.

This is an old concept of our bubble of Real being a living being and us as the "Dreams" or "Nightmares" of that living being.

- I know that this upsets people because they want to take consciousness out of the equation, but it is consciousness all the way down.

If I remember, it was a discussion between the Gnostics and the Hermetics. One group sees this as a "Prison" that we must escape from. The other sees it as a "Cathedral" to live in.

I visualize the image of the Vitruvian Man, spread eagle in a Poincare Sphere. If in your dreams you find yourself in that position, don't panic, you have merely reached the highest point of consciousness. Being the singular "One" at that point. Do not try to break free, this bubble of Real is you. There is no outside there is only inside. If you break the bubble everything dies, because we are that bubble of Real.

All the other people and worlds exist within yourself. Simply go back to sleep and return to the Dream that is Reality.

That's the part that upsets people, but Poe was right:

All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.

- Edgar Allan Poe

That Reality is all around us, from the so called "material" world to the "Immaterial" world, they are the same thing.

I posted links showing what Donald Hoffman has done.

The Case Against Reality
https://thunderbolts.info/wp/forum3/phpBB3 ... =163#p1079

When you are done with that, read The Ecology of Souls by Joshua Cutchin.

Joshua Cutchin Unveils “The Ecology of Souls”
https://www.dailygrail.com/2022/07/josh ... -of-souls/

Ecology of Souls: A new Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6XA-TU ... b_imp_woyt

Then, here is a podcast discussing the book.

Episode 84: The Ecology of Souls with Joshua Cutchin
https://6degreesofjohnkeel.com/episodes ... sh-cutchin

This is the best way to get the books. The POD gets too expensive.

Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - Vols. One & Two
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B642T28H/

That should give you plenty to work with.

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Re: In the begining....

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:50 pm

Really?
Just kidding. Thanx for that. I luvit.
So what you said isssss...
This world is magic.
I could believe no less.

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Re: In the begining....

Unread post by allynh » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:11 am

Poppa Tom wrote:This world is magic.
Last week, I stumbled across a variation of the phrase Arthur C. Clarke used(1):

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nature.

-- Karl Schroeder

I pulled out "Contact" by Carl Sagan and read it the other day. He basically said the same thing.

- He shows that on the last page when Pi is resolved so far that a circle appears embed in Pi as the "Artist's Signature".

"Strata" by Terry Pratchett says the same thing.

- Consider "Nature" itself as a "construct".

That is such a terrifying concept that can be used in so many stories. I'm still trying to unravel all of the implications.

Thanks...

(1) Stapledon’s Hawk
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2022/11 ... dons-hawk/

Follow the links in the article to find more.

This is another paper that directly addresses Schroeder's concept.

Qualitative classification of extraterrestrial civilizations
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.13221.pdf

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Re: In the begining....

Unread post by Poppa Tom » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:19 am

Much Mahalos to you. Wow!!

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