Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

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Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Holger Isenberg » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:31 pm

This is a major discovery, made through the WISPR visual light panchromatic camera on the Parker Solar Probe (PSP):

A permanent ring near the orbit of Phaeton, crossing it 10° before perihelion and at 1° offset at periapsis. What keeps it there against the solar wind, or renews it in place, is not yet known. I doubt that it's particles left there from some singular event. Looks more like a permanent process.

The same type of ring was seen in the Venus orbit.

Karl Battams 2022: Continued PSP/WISPR Observations of a Phaethon-related Dust Trail
https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.12239
video: https://wispr.nrl.navy.mil/encounter13-summary

Stenborg 2021: Pristine PSP/WISPR Observations of the Circumsolar Dust Ring near Venus's Orbit
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3 ... 357/abe623

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Cargo » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:27 am

Amazing! And so faint yet clearly present.
I have a tea leave as well, because I was falling back to what they call Intesity and the Mean Solar Brightness(MSB).

https://www.google.com/search?q=mean+solar+brightness

Is MSB the same as the Lsun the omnidirectional 3.846 × 10^26 watts ?

Okay, back to the ring. I'm star-struck trying to come up with a explanation for it's steadfastness. A CME didn't even move it?
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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Holger Isenberg » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:49 am

I forgot to add Karl Battams tweet where I got his paper link from: https://twitter.com/SungrazerComets/sta ... 6887537664

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Holger Isenberg » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:54 am

Cargo wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:27 am I'm star-struck trying to come up with a explanation for it's steadfastness. A CME didn't even move it?
That's indeed the main mystery!
There is no change in time of the ring visible and no decay in brightness of the ring throughout its orbit and the orbital period of Phaeton is 1.4 Earth years. That means something must either hold the ring objects in place or the ring particles are constantly renewed and immediately vaporised when leaving the ring location so nothing escapes visually outside of it.

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Cargo » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:19 am

Holger Isenberg wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:49 am I forgot to add Karl Battams tweet where I got his paper link from: https://twitter.com/SungrazerComets/sta ... 6887537664
HOLYSNAPS!! That is incredible... this is historic imagery and completely conveys the EU nature of Space.
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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Holger Isenberg » Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:55 pm

Yes, especially that 10° difference between comet perihelion and crossing of the orbits is interesting. Maybe it is comparable to slip in a electrical machine? There a few degrees difference are normal between physical rotor and the magnetic field when load is applied.

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Maol » Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:05 am

Nodes of resonance or standing waves, such as in this video, will cause organization in geometric patterns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhK-xtyyPqA

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Holger Isenberg » Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:56 pm

The same type of particle trail was now discovered at another comet in visual light: 96P/Machholz, which has a 5 year period only a few solar radii away at perihelion which means the particles need to resist at least 5 years the constant 600km/s solar wind: https://twitter.com/SungrazerComets/sta ... 2782970880

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Holger Isenberg » Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:10 pm

Maol wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:05 am Nodes of resonance or standing waves, such as in this video, will cause organization in geometric patterns.
That would match the conclusion of this 2013 paper, talking about meteoroid streams focussed by Jupiter and other planets' gravitational influence:
The meteor-shower complex of 96P/Machholz revisited
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013A ... N/abstract

Apparently, they confirmed this via gravity simulations. That's not unreasonable considering the most likely gravitational focus of object at Lagrange locations.

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Re: Persistent offset trails in orbits of Phaeton and Venus

Unread post by Maol » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:52 am

Holger Isenberg wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:10 pm
Maol wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:05 am Nodes of resonance or standing waves, such as in this video, will cause organization in geometric patterns.
That would match the conclusion of this 2013 paper, talking about meteoroid streams focussed by Jupiter and other planets' gravitational influence:
The meteor-shower complex of 96P/Machholz revisited
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013A ... N/abstract

Apparently, they confirmed this via gravity simulations. That's not unreasonable considering the most likely gravitational focus of object at Lagrange locations.
Like a cosmic musical instrument playing distinct notes and scales, some in the key of G, others in the key of EU.

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