Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

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Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sun May 12, 2024 5:12 pm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ ... -milky-way
NASA has spotted a colossal 'exhaust' vent in the middle of the Milky Way, likened to a car's exhaust system, emanating from the supermassive black hole at our galaxy's heart.

Scientists utilising NASA's Chandra X-ray telescope have unveiled that Sagittarius A* (Sgr A*), the massive black hole at the centre of the Milky Way, boasts a cosmic "exhaust vent".

This chimney-like structure is positioned perpendicularly to the plane of the Milky Way's disk, creating a "tunnel" that funnels hot gas towards the outer regions of Sgr A*.

The "exhaust vent" seems almost detached from the black hole itself, with the top of the tunnel situated approximately 700 light-years from the central area.
They got all that from this image …

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A closeup of the "exhaust vent" ...

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The photos show various segments of the chimney in assorted hues based on radio wave data, with the newly found vent appearing as a vivid blue and white streak against a backdrop of darker blue.

Enhanced imagery highlights white X-ray wave ridges flowing out of the vent, which scientists believe to be streams of hot gas.
They’re sooooooo *smart*. They seem to know everything there is to know about “gas”.

https://phys.org/news/2024-05-nasa-chan ... nting.html
"We suspected that magnetic fields are acting as the walls of the chimney and that hot gas is traveling up through them, like smoke," said Scott Mackey of the University of Chicago, who led the study. "Now we've discovered an exhaust vent near the top of the chimney."
See … HOT GAS, not plasma. Traveling “like smoke”. Their ignorance is simply stunning.

They truly are like the blind men trying to figure out what an elephant is, folks.

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But it gets worse …
"We're not sure if this energy and heat are stoked by a large amount of material being dumped onto Sgr A* at once, like a bunch of logs being dumped on a fire," said co-author Mark Morris of the University of California, Los Angeles. "Or it might come from multiple small loads being fed into the black hole similar to kindling being regularly tossed in."
:roll:
The Fermi and eROSITA bubbles are both aligned with the direction of the chimney and a second X-ray chimney that begins at the galaxy's center and points in the opposite direction. The funneling effects of the exhaust vent near the top of the chimney may keep the hot gas focused as it travels upwards, aiding in the formation of the coherent structure of the bubbles.

"The origin of the Fermi Bubbles and the eROSITA bubbles are some of the biggest mysteries faced by studies of the high energy radiation from our galaxy," said co-author Gabriele Ponti of the Italian National Institute of Astrophysics in Merate. "We've discovered a small structure that might play a large role in the creation of these gigantic bubbles."
The grandiosity of these blind men is astonishing.

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Re: Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

Unread post by jacmac » Mon May 13, 2024 4:50 am

It seems to me that part of why they talk like that is:
To them the plasma only happens when the temperature gets very high.
So, it's easy to keep calling the stuff GAS.
We know that what makes the plasma is charged particles and that high temps only guarantee
that it must be plasma.
The other reason is they cannot get to close to recognizing any electricity in space.
That would bring down their house of cards.

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Re: Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

Unread post by Phorce » Sun May 26, 2024 2:21 pm

It’s not exactly ignorance. It’s much more the case that they are in an ego state separated from reality. Eckhart Tolle describes this state very well, and how to get out of it, in his book The Power of Now. There’s also a lot of clues in this Joe Rogan podcast where Terrence Howard cites a lot of EU stuff and especially a hilarious story about an encounter with Neil de Grasse Tyson :lol:
Exploration and discovery without honest investigation of "extraordinary" results leads to a Double Bind (Bateson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind ) that creates loss of hope and depression. No more Double Binds !

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Re: Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

Unread post by BeAChooser » Sun May 26, 2024 4:13 pm

Phorce wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:21 pm It’s not exactly ignorance.
It's ignorance in the last few generations of astrophysicist students who haven't been taught proper physics.

It's the psychology of not being able to change one's mind after coming to *believe* in something (inherent in most humans).

It's the power of religious dogma ... and let's face it, mainstream astrophysics has all the characteristics of a religion now.

It's fear after seeing what the establishment does to those who challenge it.

And it is naked greed on the part of all those who hope kowtow to the establishment for the promise of a lucrative life.

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Re: Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

Unread post by Phorce » Sun May 26, 2024 6:00 pm

BeAChooser wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:13 pm
Phorce wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:21 pm It’s not exactly ignorance.
It's ignorance in the last few generations of astrophysicist students who haven't been taught proper physics.

It's the psychology of not being able to change one's mind after coming to *believe* in something (inherent in most humans).

It's the power of religious dogma ... and let's face it, mainstream astrophysics has all the characteristics of a religion now.

It's fear after seeing what the establishment does to those who challenge it.

And it is naked greed on the part of all those who hope kowtow to the establishment for the promise of a lucrative life.
Yes that as well. But many seem to get frustrated with monolithic approaches to changing or convincing minds. Terence Howard cites Rupert Sheldrake’s Morphogenetic Fields (crystals that are suddenly easier to crystallise once one lab does it, hundredth monkey principle, and so on). Yet how many of us actually practice implementing it ? It’s a sort of “God moves in mysterious ways” approach. 1000 EU scientists in a room would never change the mind of even a single gravity cosmologist in that room. But change the universal conditions that underly that cosmologists mind, then, well ...
Exploration and discovery without honest investigation of "extraordinary" results leads to a Double Bind (Bateson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind ) that creates loss of hope and depression. No more Double Binds !

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Re: Mainstream Astrophysicists keep thinking in terms of “gas”

Unread post by nick c » Mon May 27, 2024 1:43 am

The system centered on peer reviewed papers is not conducive to or receptive to any paradigm shift. That system works fine for making slow step by step advances within a larger paradigm, but those that advocate a change over to a new paradigm and the abandonment of the old are fated to receive a most hostile reception and complete ostracism of themselves and emphatic rejection of their ideas, relegating them to academic limbo.

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