Evidence for Martian life/civilization

[tholden]

Some of the mechanical debris possibly, although even that is a long stretch. But a five-sided pyramid a mile and a half on the long edges could not have been picked up from Earth.



http://www.enterprisemission.com/sheep.htm

[tholden]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 4091_o.jpg

[tholden]

What if I were to tell you that your government lies a lot and hasn't been terribly forthcoming with the stuff that turns up in those rolling probe images coming back from Mars......... I mean, would that really shock anybody?


Again no government agency has the manpower to go through all of these images with fine combs, but the INTERNET does and going over those images has gotten to be a big hobby for a lot of people, several FaceBook groups dedicated to it. This image shows a little fox or weasel of some sort chewing on one of the wiring harness binding straps:

Basic NASA/JPL image:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images ... 1_DXXX.jpg

Wooly-bully chewing on strap:
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... e=54FE4D31

Click on the image URLs (I'm not gonna waste any of my own time making images small for lame software......)

Not sure if NASA realizes they have a problem...

Again the image is from NASA's own site. Caught by Mike Seguin on the Mars Alive FaceBook group.

[tholden]

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4081_o.jpg

[GaryN]

Plasma can produce some very interesting shapes on Earths surface, as at Fantasy Canyon, Utah. Mars seems to have had its share of surface plasma modification too, you should expect to see some artificial looking objects among them.

[Lloyd]

This image shows a little fox or weasel of some sort chewing on one of the wiring harness binding straps:

Can't someone circle it or show some arrows pointing to it? I don't see anything like that.

[seasmith]

Differences in the rate of weathering and erosion between dissimilar rock types ultimately shaped Fantasy Canyon. The mudstone and claystone have been stripped away by water and wind, leaving the slightly more durable sandstone to be carved into bizarre, melted wax-like forms.

Although the sandstone is more resistant to erosion relative to adjacent rocks, it is in fact extremely fragile. The sandstone is fine grained, porous, soft, poorly cemented, brittle, and crumbly. When touched, grains of sand dislodge from the rock surface.

G, Wouldn't something as powerful as an electrical plasma discharge just blast this kind of material to smithereens ?
btw, there are a number of weirdly carved formations, found in similar crumbly-cake sedimentary soils, scattered around the Great Basin and ancient Lake Uinta basins, of western continental US; something that may not be too common in the highly disrupted Vancouver Island geo-zones (but don't know, never having been to B.C.. Have only your pics
and this, gracias kevin).
http://www.thelamplight.ca/schematicoft ... ncil15.htm

Merry Christmas

http://geology.utah.gov/surveynotes/geo ... canyon.htm

[Chromium6]

Just keep in mind what is "Organic" and what is not. It is all the "difference" here on (our well watered) Earth.


Fixing Occam’s Razor

All things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the best. But we don’t all agree on what “simple” means.


http://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/fi ... 610ca13136

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“It is always the simple that produces the marvelous.” -Amelia Barr

The headlines always seem to be coming in, with the latest more spectacular than the last. Researchers detect possible signal from dark matter! NASA Rover Finds Active, Ancient Organic Chemistry on Mars! And yet, is there a signal from dark matter that we can go out and measure? Is there anything “organic” happening on Mars at all?

If all you do is listen to the headlines and read the press releases/articles that come out about them, you’ll probably be led to believe the odds lie somewhere between “perhaps,” “probably” and “almost definitely.” And why wouldn’t you? After all, as respects the dark matter signal, you’ll see a graph like this, coming from the scientific paper itself.

Image credit: Alexey Boyarsky, Oleg Ruchayskiy, Dmytro Iakubovskyi, Jeroen Franse, screenshot via the full paper available at http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.4119.

Pretty compelling that something’s there at 3.5 keV, isn’t it? Why wouldn’t it be dark matter!

And for the Mars Curiosity rover, that’s perhaps even more compelling. After all, the rover detected a tenfold spike in methane at the same location over a very short timespan, a very interesting find! Here on Earth, methane is produced by living organisms, and then NASA went and released this official graphic.
Image credit: NASA / JPL-Caltech / SAM-GSFC / Univ. of Michigan.

Water below the surface could have microbes living in it, producing methane, creating pockets of gas that come up through the surface.

How could anything be simpler?

And yet, both of these scenarios are extremely doubtful. It’s probably not obvious to you why it’s doubtful, so let’s show you something where the reasoning — and the conclusions — are more than a little suspect. It’s hard to do better than this argument for dinosaurs on Venus by Carl Sagan.

[tholden]

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 10eaa43c7f

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[tholden]

More wooly-bullies....

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ ... aca435a313

[tholden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjl1f97exI

[tholden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... Kcb9NYxRz0