Chladni Plate experiment and implications

[dahlenaz]

The latest Spacenews from the Thunderbolts Project is a must see if you are not
already familiar with the capability to rearrange material in concentric circles
via a change in frequency on a device called a Chladni Plate...

Where has this factor been hiding??

A tremendous vote of appreciation to Ben Davidson
for highlighting his conversation with Kongpop U-yen
who introduced this experiment to him at EU2015..

Here is a link to the whole video of the Chladni Plate experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGiiSlMFFlI

Chladni's experiments were introduced to this forum in "new insight" at this link..
With reference to what is suggested in the recent space news it is time for a promotion.

Additionally,, we will find that a similar experiment involving Faraday Waves
produces features that some of you might recognize from the original video and presentation
of Symbols of an Alien Sky and attributed to phases of the Venus' display.

Might an alternative explanation be in order for the source of inspiration for these ancient symbols known worldwide?

How about an active cosmic cloud undergoing changes under the influence of Faraday Waves?

d..z

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[dahlenaz]

An expansion of the details involving these experiments would bring up certain questions
that may be seen initially as limitations and raise questions.

These questions are quite likely to be valid and important toward a careful investigation
of all the possibilities, identifying limitiation, determining scalability or applicability
to the cosmic environment...

One counter-question is: Can a "virtual-membrane" and confinements
be created in electrically active substances.

For this limitation I think about the galactic plane or clouds or the
the vortex of a tormado as places where loose material gets organized
into "virtual sheets" or enclosures.. Saturn's and Jupiter's polar region is another
example where Chladni's experiment might offer clues. Faraday waves are
capable of producing hexagonal close-packing, so the placement of these
phenomenon may not have been in open space, but instead, at a location that,
when viewed pole-wise, offeres the viewer a fairly consistant and dramatic
display-location that was part of a transforming cosmic show, such as an
auroral display or a view of a nearby galaxy end-on, or a gass-giant's pole..

I'm not trying to muddy the waters,,, just trying to make sure that all
possibilities have been carefully examined.. d..z

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[The Great Dog]

This was discussed in the Cymatics thread:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... ?f=10&t=38

TGD

[dahlenaz]

This was discussed in the Cymatics thread:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... ?f=10&t=38

TGD

The Cymatics thread has already been mentioned in my initial post.. The thread mentioned
is in the mad ideas or new science forum and may not be recognized as a relevant aspect of
the electric universe perspective or the thunderbolts project, despite a presence in t-bolts forum..

My suggestion to upgrade results from the chladni experiment out of the cymatics thread was
probably premature,, most certainly not base on full knowledge of the views of the t-bolts project.

Suggestions made in this thread are my own. d..z

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[querious]

Cool Cymatics video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oItpVa9fs

[dahlenaz]

Cool Cymatics video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oItpVa9fs

Yes, that is a cool demonstration of the EFFECTS of sound....

Now take away all the man-made gadgets and just modulate an open arc in an airless environment
and what do you have???

Application of sound wave theory to the cosmic puzzle may call for some very careful reasonning
so as not to get the cart in front of the horse...

In the video they included electrical discharge in both open and enclosed environments and have
demonstrated the effect of sound on such discharges,, but does this allow for inverse reasonning to be
applied so that assigning sound as a cause for the production of electrical interactions at every level???
I have doubts that this would prove to be the case.. But i can be convinced otherwise,,, for whatever
that is worth,, being only marginally educated in these subjects.

I can say with certainty
that i have not found, through search tools, any mention of cymatics on the Holoscience.com web site,
and a search of sound waves comes back with several hits,, but the one that is most important here
offers the following from Wal Thornhill:

http://www.holoscience.com/wp/twinkle-t ... tric-star/

STAR LIGHT

The bright photosphere of a star is an electric discharge high in its upper atmosphere that can be compared directly with low-pressure glow discharges in the lab................

Note: An immediate objection may be raised by helioseismologists, who claim to be able to determine what is going on inside the Sun by the way the Sun ‘rings like a bell.’ However, helioseismology assumes the standard thermonuclear model of stars and interprets the oscillations of the photosphere as a purely mechanical phenomenon. In fact, the question of what causes the Sun’s ‘ringing’ remains unanswered.


“The flute does not produce music unless one blows in it. Therefore one is led to the question: who is blowing the pipe?” J. C. Pecker —Solar Interior and Atmosphere.

On the other hand, a fundamental characteristic of plasma double layers is that they are driven electromagnetically to oscillate. Photospheric oscillations are properly the study of double layers and stellar circuits, not mechanical sound waves. This study has wider applications than to photospheric ‘ringing.’ For example, the regular pulsations of ‘neutron stars,’ conventionally attributed to a “runaway lighthouse effect,” are better explained by oscillations in the magnetospheric circuit of a normal, lazily rotating and externally powered electric star.

On this subject i will have to take him at his word and hope that the arguments of others will come across
with some level of clarity and simplicity so i can wrap my mind around the evidence.

d..z

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[querious]

"IF" there's anthing to the idea of planets resulting from some kind of resonance in the solar system, it might be related to the articles by D. L. Hotson...

http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf

http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf

In that case there's a resonance of the quantum field (Dirac's "sea of negative energy"), with the sun as the "driver".