The Squirrel on Mars

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sat May 21, 2016 5:48 pm

Somebody has done a large disservice to the Thunderbolts organization by promulgating the idea that Mars is basically just a collection of rocks and electrical scars.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sat May 21, 2016 9:33 pm

Source NASA/JPL image for the red/orange wooly-bully:

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images ... 1_DXXX.jpg

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Sun May 22, 2016 2:00 am

tholden wrote:Source NASA/JPL image for the red/orange wooly-bully:

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images ... 1_DXXX.jpg
You need professional help. Whatever that is which you have highlighted, it is only a few millimetres long. Look at the size of the digits printed on the chip at centre-left of the image.

It's certainly not a wooly-bully - they have two big horns and a wooly jaw. Hmmn, maybe it was a wooly-bully's face I saw in the cloud.
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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sun May 22, 2016 2:58 am

I said small, I didn't say how small. This same sort of creature turns up in other msl images as well and he's definitely not a rodent of any sort and if he doesn't eat mice or rats, he most likely eats bugs.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sun May 22, 2016 3:00 am

tholden wrote:I said small, I didn't say how small. This same sort of creature turns up in other msl images as well and he's definitely not a rodent of any sort and if he doesn't eat mice or rats, he most likely eats bugs.
Basic reality is that if Mars is a collection of rocks and electrical scars and nothing more than that, then he should not be there.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Sun May 22, 2016 6:55 am

tholden wrote:
tholden wrote:I said small, I didn't say how small. This same sort of creature turns up in other msl images as well and he's definitely not a rodent of any sort and if he doesn't eat mice or rats, he most likely eats bugs.
Basic reality is that if Mars is a collection of rocks and electrical scars and nothing more than that, then he should not be there.
Then perhaps he isn't. Do you think that NASA would be stupid enough to put out images which show 'alien life-forms'? Or perhaps you think that all those NASA scientists, technicians, etc., are too stupid to recognise an alien life-form when they see one? One could ask similar questions about all the scientists etc. from other agencies around the world who study these images and all the general public who do likewise.

This rubbish has no place on this forum. Take it back to Hoagland's site and Facilebook.
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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by JHL » Sun May 22, 2016 8:46 am

tholden wrote:The squirrel is not fossilized, he's lying there in the mid-day sun getting some good vitamin D for himself before he goes back underground where he spends most of his time. A fossilized squirrel would not look like that at all.
The squirrel is not fossilized. The squirrel is real. I see. This you've divined from a photo of random rocks and rubble on the planet Mars.

Let me see if I have this straight. According to you, there is at least one living Earth squirrel living on Mars by eating bugs. There is at least one living Earth squirrel - presumably a space-going flying squirrel - living on Mars as one of what must be a colony of flying vacuum-breathing Earth squirrels living on Mars by eating bugs in an airless environment. There is at least one living Earth squirrel living on Mars as one of what must be a colony of lungless Earth squirrels living on Mars by eating bugs in an airless environment because you saw him (or her) in a NASA photo when you scanned a very wide field image until you saw something you could approximately cram into your recollection of an infinitude of possible objects that included tailless lungless bug-eating flying Earth squirrels.

And this is your premise, am I right? I just want to be fair to whatever claim it is you're making. Along with a half-buried tailgate from an old Chevy pickup, an abandoned miniature Quonsut hut for cats, half a lightbulb socket, a crushed beer can, tiny orange stainless and titanium hardware-munching wooly-bullies, and a half Tasmanian devil, half possum with a mane and six toed feet peering out from the lair a chromium Martian gila monster in a bowler excavated, there is at least one living Earth squirrel breathing vacuum living on Mars as one of what must be a colony of Earth squirrels living on Mars by eating bugs in an airless environment because you saw him on a NASA photo when you scanned a very wide field photograph until you saw something you could approximately conform into your recollection of tailless bug-eating Earth squirrels living alongside metal-chewing wooly bullies.

You're having us on. Well-played, sir, well-played.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sun May 22, 2016 9:49 am

One of the things I like about Facebook is being able to simply block the total blowhards...

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by JHL » Sun May 22, 2016 10:40 am

Since you're not even willing to answer the question at least this blowhard is satisfied with what I'd already concluded: You're having us on. There's no other explanation.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sun May 22, 2016 11:00 am

JHL wrote:Since you're not even willing to answer the question at least this blowhard is satisfied with what I'd already concluded: You're having us on. There's no other explanation.
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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Sun May 22, 2016 11:11 am

tholden wrote:
JHL wrote:Since you're not even willing to answer the question at least this blowhard is satisfied with what I'd already concluded: You're having us on. There's no other explanation.
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Don't tell me. It's a little lost Martian girl right?
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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by nick c » Sun May 22, 2016 12:37 pm

To all concerned, no personal insults.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by Maol » Sun May 22, 2016 2:19 pm

Perhaps Martian life forms have evolved with a CO2 metabolism. Perhaps disassociate the CO2 to free the O2.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by tholden » Sun May 22, 2016 2:47 pm

Maol wrote:Perhaps Martian life forms have evolved with a CO2 metabolism. Perhaps disassociate the CO2 to free the O2.
My guess would be that during the Saturnian age, the atmosphere was general within the Saturn system and not individual by planet.

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Re: The Squirrel on Mars

Unread post by JHL » Sun May 22, 2016 4:59 pm

tholden wrote:My guess would be that during the Saturnian age, the atmosphere was general within the Saturn system and not individual by planet.
Meaning the lungless vacuum-breathing space-faring flying bug-eating trans-planetary underground Earth squirrels peacefully sharing Mars with 2mm refined titanium-munching wooly bullies only adapted those traits in the 12,000 years since the Saturnian era while the rest of their squirrely little physiognomies stayed frozen in time. I mean, how else would you recognize them if not the cute little furry faces and the nut-breaking incisors Darwin originally gave them?

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