OK. The first sentence in the video's description is "Do your own research." Good advice. Let's start with the weather system itself. Every meteorologist paying attention in the US saw a severe weather outbreak coming days in advance, the only question was how severe was it going to get. Heck, one could have thrown darts at a map of the region and been pretty accurate in predicting where tornado's would occur they were so widespread and numerous. Basically it was the ingredients for the "perfect storm". Indeed, there have been worse tornado outbreaks in the past, long before haarp was created.by mathew » Sun May 01, 2011 8:03 am
MASSIVE tornado outbreak was predicted
by anomalous radar rings? You be the judge!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjCTGX76_JE
I have made NO references to HAARP or Directed Energy Weapons in this thread.When all you have is a hammer (Directed Energy Weapons/HAARP), everything looks like a nail (unexplained phenomena).
People ARE paying attention to him, so it is important to be discerning-Essentially dutchsinse is the boy who cried wolf that nobody will pay attention to
I never said that it does/did.Even though humans have been playing around with weather modification for a few decades, it doesn't imply that weather modification is the cause of radar anomalies.
Maybe this is the case with the radar, but that does not meanI have taken an honest look at the evidence over the years, it's just that I've seen no evidence for HAARP or any other weather mod technology but what I do see are known and explainable glitches and/or Anomalous Propagation.
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What exactly that is I do not know, but I am open to allThe reality of what is happening is not diminished by the unwillingness to comprehend.
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also, to -the clash of ideas brings forth the spark of truth
The reference to Directed Energy Weapons is obviously an attempt by solrey to 'jab' atthose forum members who refuse to let go of their hammers for even a minute.
In order to strike with a hammer, one must first swing it in their own direction.
Really? You made NO references to HAARP, eh?I have made NO references to HAARP or Directed Energy Weapons in this thread.
In addition, the references in your long list of links in one comment were copied/pasted from Dutchsinse's blog which is primarily focused on HAARP, as are most of his videos. The video you linked about "anomalous rings" predicting the tornado outbreak is actually titled "USA WAKE UP! MASSIVE tornado outbreak was predicted by HAARP rings? You be the judge!"Defense Secretary from the 1990′s William Cohen speaking on the subject of HAARP –
http://www.defense.gov/Transcripts/Tran ... riptID=674
ocean based haarp Buoy:
http://www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/buoy/
Seems more like you're trying to shove HAARP as a weapon down our throats. So pointing out that this dutchsinse fellow doesn't know what he's talking about and the reasons why is not an open discussion...how? Because I disagree?I am simply asking questions, and I know there are plenty of people more knowledgeable than I, that frequent the thunderbolts forum . I enjoy the community here because of that knowledge, and the (usually) open discussions that are interesting and enjoyable. I sincerely hope that folks will check out dutchsinse's
sites and add their thoughts and criticisms to this thread.
Do you think it's fair to quote half a sentence? The last half is critical to the point I was trying to make which was, "Essentially dutchsinse is the boy who cried wolf that nobody will pay attention to if indeed any evidence for the use of haarp to control the weather ever happens to actually present itself, which I doubt dutchsinse and his ilk would even recognize anyway.Essentially dutchsinse is the boy who cried wolf that nobody will pay attention to
People ARE paying attention to him, so it is important to be discerning-
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I never said you said that, I was just making a point in general.Even though humans have been playing around with weather modification for a few decades, it doesn't imply that weather modification is the cause of radar anomalies.
I never said that it does/did.
My bad, I meant to say I've seen no evidence for the use of HAARP or any other weather mod technology appear on weather radar, except for cloud seeding maybe. I don't recall ever saying that HAARP doesn't exist or isn't being used in some capacity, of course it is. I just don't see evidence for it's use on weather radar is all, plus nobody has provided credible evidence that it's been used in nefarious ways either, although that potential surely exists.Maybe this is the case with the radar, but that does not mean that weather mod tech is not in effect as we speak. And if such tech is being employed anywhere on earth, it could potentially effect the weather everywhere.I have taken an honest look at the evidence over the years, it's just that I've seen no evidence for HAARP or any other weather mod technology but what I do see are known and explainable glitches and/or Anomalous Propagation.
Welcome.What exactly that is I do not know, but I am open to all information and perspectives, including the links you have provided solrey. Thank you for those.
Ummm, that really wasn't a jab. If HAARP or any other electromagnetic based technology is being used as a weapon to control the weather in some kind of weather warfare against the populace, that makes it a directed energy weapon does it not?The reference to Directed Energy Weapons is obviously an attempt by solrey to 'jab' at the information presented in these threads that have not had an honest assessment by him-
Tesla, Hutchinson Effect, Directed Energy and Dr. Judy Wood
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3788
Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technolgy
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4235
Could you be more specific about those "obvious glaring errors errors" 'cause I don't recall any major fopauxs.Until you admit you have made some obvious glaring errors errors in your posts solrey, (possibly in a private message apology to my self regarding your accusations that some of my posts (on the first thread) were "misleading and/or deliberately dishonest")-
I still feel your comment was misleading and I stand by my statement, sir.I would like to point out that Towers 1&2 and building 7 were NOT the only buildings destroyed that day. Also buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6 (on the WTC site) were all destroyed to the point of being demolished.
matthew that is totally misleading at best if not entirely inaccurate at worst. WTC 1, 2 and 7 were the only buildings "destroyed to the point of being demolished", i.e. collapsed, on 911. The other buildings were severely damaged beyond repair from the falling debris of the twin towers but no other buildings collapsed that day even though a couple of them suffered catastrophic damage.
Other than wearing the glove of critical thinking, my hand is always open and ready to use all the tools at my disposal from a rather extensive collection.My question to you solrey is, what is that thing in YOUR hand?
I have posted LINKSReally? You made NO references to HAARP, eh?
from one of my viewers who has family in Joplin Missouri ---
"Just in. My step son living in the vicinty of Carrosel Park(sp) on the 3800 block of West 7th, Joplin had listened to my ranting of Flash rings seen in general area, had packed up family, summer, clothes and valuables then left the area for the weekend in the hills near Anderson. Thanks to you they and their worth are ok. House, boat and all else are gone but my daughter, stepson and grandkids are ok....Thanks to you --youtube user billyhayes548 (12 hours ago)
my reply:
dutchsinse @BillyHayes548 thank god!!!! im glad to hear this.. you have no idea how much it means to know i made a difference!!!!!!! thank you for letting me know , im glad they are ok!"
Just ask the "spin doctors"Hyperdimensional HurricansKevin said: Could we discuss what causes that which is called the weather? I consider it to be a consequence of attraction and repulsion caused by input/output flows into and out of the planet.
In the Hyperdimensional Model, matter itself is similarly formed by "aetheric, hyperdimensional" energy waves, which behave like a fluid as they flow into and out of our own "3-D reality" creating what we recognize as "matter" and "energy" along the way. Put simply, Jenny’s work tells us,
"Any fluid, once vibrated at a steady rate by an external energy source, will create regular geometric patterns - be it in a laboratory... or in the aetheric fabric of three-dimensional Reality itself."
These hidden geometric patterns ultimately trace back to a topological hyperdimensional analysis called the Schlafli Double-Six (right) – a mathematical projection of the literal geometry of a “gate between dimensions.” A projection which, in turn, resolves into the familiar circumscribed tetrahedral geometry (below) which, in a rotating planetary sphere, predicts the locations of the largest, stationary hyperdimensional energy transfer locations (upwellings) – relative to the planet’s spin axis – at ~19.5 degrees.
Around 200 B.C., the Greek geometer Euclid proved that there are only five regular polyhedra (technically called “polytopes” by topologists) in three spatial dimensions -- the tetrahedron, cube, octahedron, icosahedron, and the dodecahedron. Fast forward the film: in 1901, Ludwig Schlafli showed that there are only six regular polychora1 (or polytopes) in four dimensions.
Therefore, if a “gate” were to be resonantly opened between dimensions, according to Schlafli’s pioneering topological calculations of over a century ago, it could only manifest (in our three spatial dimensions) as the geometry of one of the five regular “Platonic solids”
It is this energy transfer process, we propose – as three-dimensional aetheric waves, resonantly mirroring the invisible force structure of these topologies between dimensions -- which created the startling, evolving “Platonic” geometry of Isabel’s “eye” -- as the storm attained a Category 5
The hyperdimensional hurricane model makes one major physical prediction: the decreased inertia of the “eye’s” central spinning clouds (the “DePalma Effect”) -- due to their high rotational velocity -- should significantly enhance vertical convection in those clouds – leading to higher than average thunderstorms within the “eye.”
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