Anomalies of comet - Operation: ISON Barycentrism

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Re: Anomalies of comet - Operation: ISON Barycentrism

Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:11 pm

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These are images for some empirically observed inner coma structures of several comets that demonstrate spoke lines and torus-shaped vortical structures of their comae during their outburst events
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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:28 pm

I believe I had found solid evidence for the mechanism of cometary outburst events in the outer Solar System:

A series of empirically observed Comet 29P outbursts from January 2008 to April 2010

This discovery is unprecedented and revolutionary.
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Re: Anomalies of comet - Operation: ISON Barycentrism

Unread post by Sparky » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:36 am

Comet 29P was again very near and approaching the L3 Lagrangian point of the barycenter rendered by Jupiter and Uranus, and it was quite aligned with this L3 Lagrangian point and the barycenter of Saturn and Uranus.
Aren't Lagrangian points areas of equal forces? :?

If so, why do comets react as they do? :?
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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:53 am

Sparky wrote:
Comet 29P was again very near and approaching the L3 Lagrangian point of the barycenter rendered by Jupiter and Uranus, and it was quite aligned with this L3 Lagrangian point and the barycenter of Saturn and Uranus.
Aren't Lagrangian points areas of equal forces? :?

If so, why do comets react as they do? :?
Lagrangian points are libration points of balance acceleration in a large two body system, a smaller third body in any of the Lagrangian points experiences equal forces from all direction, would thus be relatively stationary with respect to the first two. This is the principle behind Trojan asteroids and also how the SOHO spacecraft were hold in their relatively stationary positions.

Nonetheless, the charge field around the Lagrangian points have differential intensity that fundamentally follow the principle of inverse square law, hence, those comets react accordingly as they did on their outburst events.
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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:20 am

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The brightest outburst empirically observed for Comet 29P on around 12th January 2008 with an apparent magnitude of about +9,3, which is almost a ten thousand-fold different in brightness as compared with its dimmest observation at the apparent magnitude of about +19, as demonstrated with its event circumstances as shown above for this outburst, Comet 29P was quite near to the L3 Lagrangian points of Jupiter, also quite near to the L3 Lagrangian point of a barycenter rendered by Jupiter and Neptune, and the L3 Lagrangian point of a barycenter rendered by Jupiter, Neptune, and Uranus. It was also quite aligned with Saturn and the two nearby L3 Lagrangian points of the two barycenters. And comparing this event circumstances to the event circumstances for all its other lower intensity outbursts that were investigated during a period from 2008 to 2010, this apparently was the catalyst that has had the strongest compounded effect for rendering this brightest outburst.

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All orbital elements of involved Solar System objects for any of these outburst events for Comet 29P can be scrutinized by launching this JPL Small-Body Database Browser applet with the pre-selected comet on a MS WIndows 7 computer. After launching the applet, type in the date of the particular outburst event of this comet, a 3D interactive orbit diagram for a specific outburst event of Comet 29P is thus setup. The orbit diagram can be panned, tilted, zoom in or zoomed out for visual inspection on orbital elements of those involved Solar System objects for verifying any alignment.
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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:42 am

The moment of truth!

The UVS prediction on Comet C/2012 K1 PANSTARRS outburst was confirmed!

On 15th August 2014 @ 23:06, Comet C/2012 K1 PANSTARRS was empirically observed on the SOHO's C3 coronagraph as it was coming out from behind the Sun and away of its glare, and it was reported with its caption in a SOHO's image to have had significantly increased in brightness estimated at ~7.2 magnitude.

This is about 4.28 times brighter than its expected brightness of 8.78 magnitude at around that time.

Waiting for further confirmations from other sources of report on its increased brightness......

For the detailed information on this cometary outburst, check it out in the UVS comet page.
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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:18 am

Just received another unofficial confirmation on Comet C/2012 K1 PANSTARRS appeared in SOHO' C3 coronagraph to be brightening throughout 12th to 17th August 2014.
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Unread post by seasmith » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:50 am

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Hi Vincent,

Still trying to get a better handle on your terminologies, in order to better understand your thesis here.

Earlier you mentioned:
Postby Vincent Wee-Foo » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:50 am

Mechanically, at a significant barycenter, a comet would also be subjected to the maximum resonated torsion force from the composite tidal effect of the celestial objects that render the barycenter effect. The intensified reactive centrifugal force manifested from the tidal effect, could also impel the electrostatically encapsulated particles in the coma to become more energetically charged, and thus would contribute to its coma outburst. And if a comet is aligned with significant and nearby celestial objects or barycenters, it would also be subjected to some degree of the torsion force of their composite tidal effect.
and
From the UVS perspective, aether corpuscles, the carriers of photons, have mass, and photon is a vortically induced charged field...

Using your concepts of aether corpuscles and tidal effects, [tides of what?]
could you please talk a bit about what generates LaGrange nodes, and what forces & in what combination are those forces
involved in LaGrangian formations ?

thankyou

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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:47 am

seasmith wrote:~
Hi Vincent,
Still trying to get a better handle on your terminologies, in order to better understand your thesis here.
Hi seasmith,

TYVM for your interest and I questions.

Its my bad for those terminologies that were elusive.
Earlier you mentioned:
Postby Vincent Wee-Foo » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:50 am

Mechanically, at a significant barycenter, a comet would also be subjected to the maximum resonated torsion force from the composite tidal effect of the celestial objects that render the barycenter effect. The intensified reactive centrifugal force manifested from the tidal effect, could also impel the electrostatically encapsulated particles in the coma to become more energetically charged, and thus would contribute to its coma outburst. And if a comet is aligned with significant and nearby celestial objects or barycenters, it would also be subjected to some degree of the torsion force of their composite tidal effect.
and
From the UVS perspective, aether corpuscles, the carriers of photons, have mass, and photon is a vortically induced charged field...

Using your concepts of aether corpuscles and tidal effects, [tides of what?]
could you please talk a bit about what generates LaGrange nodes, and what forces & in what combination are those forces
involved in LaGrangian formations ?

thankyou
I don't think I am competent enough to answer your questions comprehensively, nevertheless I will try, so please bear with me, and I hope my explanation herein would not be misleading.

In the UVS world view, in a nutshell, it is the tide of condensed aether corpuscles in its ocean encapsulated by the nested shells of celestial objects.

As for what generates LaGrange nodes, and what forces & in what combination are those forces involved in LaGrangian formations.

In a nutshell, its the cymatics of quantized two-body systems with precession effects in their two-axis spin, or harmonic frequencies of a two-body system in two-axis spin that are resonated on a spheroidal cluster of aether corpuscles, which their vortical motion render charges on spinor fields, elementary charges on subatomic particles, and electric charges on electrons.

For detailed explanation, please take at look at a UVS topic on "The structure of atom" for further elaboration.

Kindly advise if there are errors or any shortcoming.

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Unread post by seasmith » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:19 pm


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Vincent,

TYfYR
Think that i now have a somewhat better idea of your tidal mechanisms and effects.

Not to detour too much from the cometary subject of this thread, but if you could first expand some on your answer above, regarding the ~subsuming milieu …


" As for what generates LaGrange nodes, and what forces & in what combination are those forces involved in LaGrangian formations.

In a nutshell, its the cymatics of quantized two-body systems with precession effects in their two-axis spin, or harmonic frequencies of a two-body system in two-axis spin that are resonated on a spheroidal cluster of aether corpuscles, which their vortical motion render charges on spinor fields, elementary charges on subatomic particles, and electric charges on electrons." vwf
Is your treatment here as a "two-body problem", mainly for (mathematical) expediency ?
Would the introduction of an additional degree of freedom allow for consideration of an influence from the ~conduction of the solar system around (or through) the arm of a spiral galaxy ?
Or is that effect neglible upon the Local spin-orbits/precessions ?

Also, what is the intrinsic nature of the centers/foci/loci/?,
of your "spheroidal unisonal vortices", and "vortically resonated spinor field(s) ".



“All celestial objects rotate and revolve in vortical motion with resonated precession effects.” - UVS inspired
http://www.uvs-model.com/UVS%20on%20geo ... 20atom.htm



That fits well with an ESG ∞ ElectroStatic Gyroscopic model
;)



http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 6&start=45

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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:45 pm

seasmith wrote:
As for what generates LaGrange nodes, and what forces & in what combination are those forces involved in LaGrangian formations.

In a nutshell, its the cymatics of quantized two-body systems with precession effects in their two-axis spin, or harmonic frequencies of a two-body system in two-axis spin that are resonated on a spheroidal cluster of aether corpuscles, which their vortical motion render charges on spinor fields, elementary charges on subatomic particles, and electric charges on electrons." vwf
Is your treatment here as a "two-body problem", mainly for (mathematical) expediency ?
TYfYR too.

It is, and you nailed it right on. Its merely the flavors for mathematicians to satisfy their appetite for determinism.
Would the introduction of an additional degree of freedom allow for consideration of an influence from the ~conduction of the solar system around (or through) the arm of a spiral galaxy ?
Or is that effect neglible upon the Local spin-orbits/precessions ?
Sorry I cannot comprehend what is "the introduction of an additional degree of freedom", so I guess you are referring to the postulated fourth dimension.

But I think this is beyond me for its proper reply.

Also, what is the intrinsic nature of the centers/foci/loci/?,
of your "spheroidal unisonal vortices", and "vortically resonated spinor field(s) ".
IMO, its emergent process is not easy to answer satisfactorily for it can come from at three levels for its perception.

In a nutshell, if your can bear with my dribbles, its vortical motion with the mass effect of matters that forms it with the push momentum of aether corpuscles. Its properties involves electric charge that conserves the strong nuclear force in the macrocosms as well as the microcosms with cumulated vortical motion; this render the foci of interacting vortically coalesced clusters of matter with resonated spinor field.

For more detailed views of my opinions, my perceptions are covered in a UVS topic on "Cosmic evolution of stars and galaxies" that elaborates on vortical gravitational singularity.

Note: This is not the Newtonian gravity at all, nor is it the standard model gravity of warped space-time.

It would be difficult to state it from the second level, and falsifiable in the third level in its transcendental metaphysical realm when it becomes undefinable. So I will skip these for the time being.

“All celestial objects rotate and revolve in vortical motion with resonated precession effects.” - UVS inspired
http://www.uvs-model.com/UVS%20on%20geo ... 20atom.htm

That fits well with an ESG ∞ ElectroStatic Gyroscopic model
;)
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 6&start=45
I recall Sparky mentioned this sometime back, and in principle I agreed with him.
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Unread post by Vincent Wee-Foo » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:30 am

seasmith wrote:
Is your treatment here as a "two-body problem", mainly for (mathematical) expediency ?
Would the introduction of an additional degree of freedom allow for consideration of an influence from the ~conduction of the solar system around (or through) the arm of a spiral galaxy ?
Or is that effect neglible upon the Local spin-orbits/precessions ?
Afterthought, on the "conduction of the solar system around (or through) the arm of a spiral galaxy", it is significant in the UVS worldview.

By understanding the underlying mechanism, it will elucidate the causality for the planetary orbits with elliptical and apsidal motions that are precessing in the localized reference frame of a static Sun. And thus realizes the cognitive paradox of the Kepler's laws of planetary motion.

The orbit of satellite, and that includes the motion of the Sun moving around the Galactic Center, are undulated and impelled by its galactic vortex.

This will also bring to light on the postulated pull in effect of gravity in Newtonian physics and modern physics, are cargo cult sciences.
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Unread post by David » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:28 am

While browsing ”The model of Universal Vortical Singularity“ website, I stumbled upon this clever and hilarious satire; which is proudly displayed as an endorsement of the theory:

“Appraising the proffered paradigm shifting, convention breaching, fractally engaged neoclassical approach to the immutable integration of pan-phenomena, ipso facto universal, into a cohesive conceptual entity without invoking inchoate verbiage and dissonant exploratory tendrils, leads me to this incontrovertible culmination: Exposition, analysis, synthesis and resolution, whether dialectically or pedagogically inclined, infer analogous identification of UVS with spherically expressed, macrobiotic composites, articulated as multi-layered organic constructs teleologically destined to entrain seminal manifestations.” -- Ophiolite of Naked Science Forum, 21st Sep 2010

Priceless!

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David wrote:While browsing ”The model of Universal Vortical Singularity“ website, I stumbled upon this clever and hilarious satire; which is proudly displayed as an endorsement of the theory:

“Appraising the proffered paradigm shifting, convention breaching, fractally engaged neoclassical approach to the immutable integration of pan-phenomena, ipso facto universal, into a cohesive conceptual entity without invoking inchoate verbiage and dissonant exploratory tendrils, leads me to this incontrovertible culmination: Exposition, analysis, synthesis and resolution, whether dialectically or pedagogically inclined, infer analogous identification of UVS with spherically expressed, macrobiotic composites, articulated as multi-layered organic constructs teleologically destined to entrain seminal manifestations.” -- Ophiolite of Naked Science Forum, 21st Sep 2010

Priceless!
Myself could not decipher many words used by Ophiolite of Naked Science Forum as stated above. I had to sent posts to ask him what exactly did he meant for some terms. He cordially replied, and we even conversed about meeting up when he visits Singapore again. Put opinions aside, I can confirmed that he was assertive with his endorsement for UVS, and he was a very mean critic in that forum for any stuff he did not agree with.
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Unread post by seasmith » Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:12 am

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Vincent wrote:
Would the introduction of an additional degree of freedom allow for consideration of an influence from the ~conduction of the solar system around (or through) the arm of a spiral galaxy ?
Or is that effect neglible upon the Local spin-orbits/precessions ? -s
Sorry I cannot comprehend what is "the introduction of an additional degree of freedom", so I guess you are referring to the postulated fourth dimension.

But I think this is beyond me for its proper reply.
I'm sorry, wasn't very clear there, too many words.
I'm not positing another dimension here, just another degree of freedom of motion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrees_of ... chemistry)

I've glossed most of your webpages and the LaGrange Node discussions seem to be from a (perfectly logical) perspective of an "encapsulated" spheroidal vortex ~type~ system.

I was merely asking if the Solar system's progression through space, significantly affects the "resonated precession effects" within the solar system ?

[as part of a galaxy]

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