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Best is yet to come

Post by tangointhenight » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:12 pm

If we don't fix global warming, then there would be global catastrophe. But in fifty years, humanity will change like it always does. New technology will be invented, oil will run out and electric cars would have to be built. Nah the future is awesome.

Oh, I forgot in 2050 NASA will be on Mars. And war will be impossible because of lasers, which would knock down any approaching missile.
The first nano assembler would be built before 2050. That's why I said, the best of human achievement is yet to come. Humans have not reached there limits of growth, and we will continue to grow into space.
New technology always changed human lives, just look at the computer, the computer changed our daily lives, everyone communicates, acquires knowledge, etc. All through this computer.

In 2050 imagine the kind of technology we will have, life extension, supercomputers, Web 3.0, hand-held laser weapons, space tourism, space hotels?, etc.
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:19 pm

Examples of civilizations and societies which have collapsed

By Reversion/Simplification

* Hittite Empire
* Mycenaean Greece
* The Neo-Assyrian Empire
* Indus Valley Civilization
* Mauryan and Gupta states
* Angkor civilization of the Khmer Empire
* Han and Tang Dynasty of China
* Anasazi
* Etruscans
* Western Roman Empire
* Izapa
* Maya
* Munhumutapa Empire
* Olmec

By Incorporation/Absorption

* Sumer
* Ancient Egypt
* Babylonia
* Ancient Levant
* Classical Greece
* Eastern Roman Empire (Medieval Greek) of the Byzantines
* Modern North East Asian civilisations, Hindu and Mughal India
* Qin, Song, Mongol and Qing China
* Tokugawa Shogunate of Japan, ending with the Meiji Restoration
* Aztecs and Incas


Come on...we are next ;)

BTW all of these "civilizations" ended with massive bloodshed!
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by tangointhenight » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:21 pm

We have technology which can move us off the planet, or even into the ocean. By just building OTEC's we can end poverty, and change the face of the Earth.

These people collapsed because of War, they didn't collapse because of lack of land, they had plenty land, but they did not expand.
We know better.

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:26 pm

WHY they collapsed if irrelevant, the fact is, our track record sucks! And it aint about to change! Me thinks. 8-)
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by tangointhenight » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:50 pm

Well, we will collapse in about 100 years. But technology will improve, maybe nanotechnology will finally arrive, so we will not collapse. See what im saying?

Technology will evolve, like it always does. When oil runs out, we will build electric cars, coal plants will not be able to keep up to the demand of electrical power, new plants will be built. Maybe fusion reactors. When fusion reactors are built, space exploration will begin.

In a hundred years, many things will change. And therefore technology will prevent our destruction.

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by StevenO » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:26 am

tangointhenight wrote:Well, we will collapse in about 100 years. But technology will improve, maybe nanotechnology will finally arrive, so we will not collapse. See what im saying?

Technology will evolve, like it always does. When oil runs out, we will build electric cars, coal plants will not be able to keep up to the demand of electrical power, new plants will be built. Maybe fusion reactors. When fusion reactors are built, space exploration will begin.

In a hundred years, many things will change. And therefore technology will prevent our destruction.
No technology is available to replace the amount of energy we currently use through burning fossil fuels. We need that to keep our "global economy" alive. Without this supply of energy, society as we now know it will collapse to a much more primitive level and the 100 years you envision could easily drag into 1000 years. A little over 100 years ago 85% of the human energy went into farming.
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I Don't Get It. . .

Post by StevenJay » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:34 am

I'm still trying to find a correlation between. . .
tangointhenight wrote:If we don't fix global warming, then there would be global catastrophe. But in fifty years, humanity will change like it always does. New technology will be invented, oil will run out and electric cars would have to be built. [...] Oh, I forgot in 2050 NASA will be on Mars. And war will be impossible because of lasers, which would knock down any approaching missile.
Influx wrote:Examples of civilizations and societies which have collapsed [...]
tangointhenight wrote:These people collapsed because of War, they didn't collapse because of lack of land, they had plenty land, but they did not expand.
We know better.
tangointhenight wrote:Well, we will collapse in about 100 years. But technology will improve, maybe nanotechnology will finally arrive, so we will not collapse.
. . . and the question at hand; "What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?" :shock:
It's all about perception.

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Re: Best is yet to come

Post by bboyer » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:30 pm

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by tangointhenight » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:35 am

StevenO wrote:
tangointhenight wrote:Well, we will collapse in about 100 years. But technology will improve, maybe nanotechnology will finally arrive, so we will not collapse. See what im saying?

Technology will evolve, like it always does. When oil runs out, we will build electric cars, coal plants will not be able to keep up to the demand of electrical power, new plants will be built. Maybe fusion reactors. When fusion reactors are built, space exploration will begin.

In a hundred years, many things will change. And therefore technology will prevent our destruction.
No technology is available to replace the amount of energy we currently use through burning fossil fuels. We need that to keep our "global economy" alive. Without this supply of energy, society as we now know it will collapse to a much more primitive level and the 100 years you envision could easily drag into 1000 years. A little over 100 years ago 85% of the human energy went into farming.
I'm pertty sure we will have fusion reactors, a hundred years from now.

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by tangointhenight » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:39 pm

StevenO wrote:
tangointhenight wrote:Well, we will collapse in about 100 years. But technology will improve, maybe nanotechnology will finally arrive, so we will not collapse. See what im saying?

Technology will evolve, like it always does. When oil runs out, we will build electric cars, coal plants will not be able to keep up to the demand of electrical power, new plants will be built. Maybe fusion reactors. When fusion reactors are built, space exploration will begin.

In a hundred years, many things will change. And therefore technology will prevent our destruction.
No technology is available to replace the amount of energy we currently use through burning fossil fuels. We need that to keep our "global economy" alive. Without this supply of energy, society as we now know it will collapse to a much more primitive level and the 100 years you envision could easily drag into 1000 years. A little over 100 years ago 85% of the human energy went into farming.
Geothermal can produce more energy than coal plants. And it's renewable.

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Callesen58 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:16 am

tangointhenight wrote:We have technology which can move us off the planet, or even into the ocean. By just building OTEC's we can end poverty, and change the face of the Earth.

These people collapsed because of War, they didn't collapse because of lack of land, they had plenty land, but they did not expand.
We know better.
So wrong.

They collapsed because their culture became dominant.

A dominant culture is one prone to decay, just look at the difference between the early Roman Empire and the late Roman Empire. The Roman Empire simply collapsed because of internal struggles, no need for barbarians there.

Also, we will run out of rare earth minerals in 10-20 years. All the "super-technologies" being developed requires rare earth minerals. Go figure.
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Re: Best is yet to come

Post by Joe Keenan » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:14 am

How about this for a shocking thesis, Rome, that is the Western Empire, did not collapse, a city did.

Rome.

Contrary to the propaganda there was no Dark Age, instead provinces threw off Roman rule, Roman slavery, and creativity boomed, science advanced. Population expanded, hardly an indication of collapse, technology advanced. Too many people worship stones, they see the Glory that was Rome, old buildings, sigh deeply and lament the passing of this great culture.

They never seem to ask, "Where did they get the money for these structures?"

Too bad because, it's quite simple, from people they conquered. All those roads led to Rome for a reason, they were the means by which expropriated wealth flowed to Rome. Even the much vaunted Roman roads were overrated, cobble stones suck as road material, Roman armies marched on the side of the road to save their knees/legs. There was a good reason they were torn up, the were a waste of material.

Just as science is corrupted, so too history. Take much of it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Best is yet to come

Post by QuestForMore » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:04 pm

How about this......CLIMATEGATE......is global warming even true...with those hacked e-mail it doesn't seem apparently slow, although I will say I do believe in climate change in a sense that its not just getting hotter, but more unpredictable and possibly be more devasating

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